I have been on both sides, and have found that quoting a base, like "80K+, DOE, negotiable" can start a meaningful conversation. It says as an employer, I understand the market and my budget, and I can go higher for the right person. As a applicant, I can get an evaluation of my experience vs. the market.
The problem is there are too many posts for senior, where they blatantly cannot afford it. If I was really interested, and a range wasn't listed, I would call, and find out the range. I would never consider setting an appointment on something totally vague. And for those employers who have posted a job, and gotten blasted, you should be thankful.That's right. You got a free consultation on the marketplace, and all it cost you was your some time and pride. The question is, are you smart enough to recognize the realistic costs of what you want to do. The successful ones do. The startup, sweat equity, fly-by-the-seat-of-my-pants employers don't. -- Cole Quoting Chris Wood <[email protected]>: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 10:58 AM, David Boucha <[email protected]> wrote: >> interview process without having any idea of what they're expecting to >> pay in salary. I've gone through a couple interview processes for mid >> to senior level developer positions for pretty large companies and >> found out at the end that they were only offering poverty level wages. >> I understand that employers have other needs to consider when posting >> job offers, but I won't even look twice if they don't post a range. >> >> I actually feel it's rather disrespectful. Why isn't this company >> being direct and up front with me? What else are they going to be >> evasive about? I don't think it's a good way to start a new employee / >> employer relationship. >> >> If you're wanting to be flexible, then say that in the job offer. Or >> say you're looking to hire an entry level programmer as well as a >> senior level and then hire the person you feel best fits. > > Why not email the company and ask them the range before applying? I > happily answer those emails when people ask. > > -- > Chris Wood > -=-=-=-=-=-=- > > _______________________________________________ > > UPHPU mailing list > [email protected] > http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu > IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net > _______________________________________________ UPHPU mailing list [email protected] http://uphpu.org/mailman/listinfo/uphpu IRC: #uphpu on irc.freenode.net
