Brad, Looks interesting, let me look more into it. Thanks!
Dustin. On Feb 13, 2008 9:49 AM, Brad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Dustin, > > I was sitting here thinking... kweather has weather information for the > whole world. It looks like they do use NOAA, but not the web and xml > services I used in that portlet. They use METAR: > http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/metar.shtml > > Here's a list of station names that they have weather data for in METAR: > http://weather.noaa.gov/data/nsd_bbsss.txt > > Here's a java project that retrieves and parses METAR data. Its license > is LGPL which should work for ja-sig: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/jweather/ > > Looks like a good option to me. What do you think? > > thanks, > Brad Johnson > Texas Tech University > > > On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 17:16 -0700, Dustin S. icedout3e-at-gmail.com | > JASIG-List-2| wrote: > > It is proving to be a difficult, if not impossible thing to find an > > international service that is ABSOLUTELY free and allows commercial > > usage. > > > > Right now the two choices of international services are: > > > > 1.) Accuweather.com - currently in contact with, unsure as to the > > status of commercial usage. Their service will require a link back to > > accuweather and an accuweather logo. > > > > 2.) Weather.com SDK - I have looked at license, it requires > > registration on user part to even use as well as a limit of 25,000 > > requests, a logo, and at least 3 link backs. > > > > Personally I don't mind the usage of a logo or link backs since you > > can't really get away from them (they're providing a service that > > costs them money). We use Yahoo Weather at our university which > > requires clickbacks and logo's and its worked out great. > > > > What do others think about this? Are logo's and clickbacks ok or no? > > > > If logo's and clickbacks's are not an option then providing an > > international weather portlet may require the usage of several weather > > feeds. > > > > For U.S. and surround waters we could use: NOAA. > > Other places: ??? > > > > Brad, can you look and see if you can find any other services outside > > of the U.S. that provide weather entirely free? I will take a look as > > well in case we need to run this route. > > > > Also, can any foreign users chime in if they are using a weather > > service that is entirely free (like NOAA)? > > > > On Feb 12, 2008 2:11 PM, Brad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 13:34 -0700, Dustin S. > icedout3e-at-gmail.com | > > JASIG-List-2| wrote: > > > Brad, > > > > > > Thanks. I checked it out and built the project. Everything > packaged > > > fine. I did not actually deploy it yet. > > > > > > We are shooting for an international portlet and from my > > > understanding, the NOAA service did not provide international > weather. > > > From what I read, it only provided U.S. and surround waters. > Can you > > > confirm this? > > > > Hello Dustin, > > > > Yep, NOAA is only for US and surrounding waters. > > > > Is there a royalty free, unlimited access, international > > weather service to be had? I reviewed the agreements of the > > various weather services discussed in September on the > > uportal-users list and didn't find any of their agreements to > > be acceptable. My search was > > probably not exhaustive, though. > > > > Here's the attributes that I think we would need in a service > > (these are up for discussion): > > > > - basic weather information > > (hi/low/current/condition/forecast , etc.) > > - covers the US > > (international weather will likely be a separate task) > > - no attribution requirement > > - no logo requirement > > - no limit on number of areas to get weather for > > - allow commercial use > > > > The NOAA XML weather service doesn't seem to have a > > restrictive Terms of Use policy. http://www.nws.noaa.gov/xml/ > > The other services seem to have unacceptable restrictions. > > Here are some highlights I've collected (back in September) > > from each source's terms of use policy that seems to make them > > inappropriate for inclusion in a default uPortal weather > > channel: > > > > == yahoo.com T&C == > > http://developer.yahoo.com/weather/#terms > > > > ... "The feeds are provided free of charge for use by > > individuals and non-profit organizations for personal, > > non-commercial uses. We ask that you provide attribution to > > Yahoo! Weather in connection with your use of the feeds." ... > > > > == weather.com.au == > > http://www.weather.com.au/about/rss > > > > ..."You may only use up to 10 different weather locations per > > domain. If you require more than this, please contact us for > > authorization first. > > * A link back to weather.com.au must be provided for > > every > > location you display weather for on your site. The URL > > to link > > back to is provided in the feed using the <link> tag. > > * If you wish to display icons, these must be linked > > directly to > > the icons hosted on our server. You may not copy the > > icons and > > host them on your own server. The full URL to each > > applicable > > icon is included in the feed."... > > > > > > == weather.com == > > http://www.weather.com/weather/rss/subscription# > > ..."The RSS Service is for personal, non-commercial use only. > > Any other uses, including without limitation the incorporation > > of advertising into or the placement of advertising associated > > with or targeted towards the RSS Content, are strictly > > prohibited. You may not add any content to the > > RSS Service."... > > ======================================= > > > > If there is an acceptable free international weather service > > then that's great, but for us "free" is more important than > > "international". I > > imagine the same would be true for everyone no matter if they > > are in the US or not. We might need to make the weather > > service plug-able to take > > advantage of various regional free weather services. > > > > thanks, > > Brad Johnson > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Dustin. > > > > > > On Feb 12, 2008 12:35 PM, Brad Johnson < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > Hey Dustin and Andrew, > > > > > > I've committed the code > > > > > > to > /sandbox/WeatherPortlet/branches/texastech-noaa-maven . > > > > > > Go ahead and take a look. It builds with Maven 2 now. > Let me > > > know if you > > > have problems building it. > > > > > > > > > BTW, there are screenshots in the /docs directory. > > > > > > thanks, > > > Brad Johnson > > > Texas Tech University > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 08:29 -0700, Dustin S. > > > icedout3e-at-gmail.com | > > > > JASIG-List-2| wrote: > > > > Brad, > > > > > > > > Like Andrew said, branches would be a more > appropriate place > > > to put > > > > it. Thanks for the contribution. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dustin. > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 8:19 AM, Andrew Petro < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > Brad, > > > > > > > > I'd suggest committing your code seed > somewhere more > > > like > > > > > > > > > /sandbox/WeatherPortlet/branches/texastech-noaa-seed > > > > > > > > or the like, allowing Dustin Schultz et al. > to > > > review this > > > > before svn > > > > copying it to trunk as the starting point > for this > > > effort (or > > > > not, > > > > harvesting parts of it for that effort > instead). > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > Brad Johnson wrote: > > > > > Hello Ja-sig > > > > > > > > > > I have a working weather portlet that uses > the new > > > NOAA > > > > weather service > > > > > XML API. Is written using spring portlet > MVC. I > > > believe, it > > > > would be a > > > > > good starting point for the jasig-weather > > > portlet. It uses > > > > ant for the > > > > > build process, but should be simple to > build with > > > maven. > > > > > > > > > > I would like to go ahead and commit this > to > > > > > the /sandbox/WeatherPortlet/trunk as a > starting > > > point. 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