The METAR data is very interesting and definitely a possible solution. There are two things I noticed.
1.) It comes from airports around the world so how would we get weather for cities with no airports? 2.) What is going to be an easy way to map an IATA code (airport code) to a city? I was trying to figure out how kweather and libgweather do this but haven't looked hard enough yet. Dustin. On Feb 13, 2008 10:48 AM, Dustin S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brad, > > Looks interesting, let me look more into it. Thanks! > > Dustin. > > > On Feb 13, 2008 9:49 AM, Brad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello Dustin, > > > > I was sitting here thinking... kweather has weather information for the > > whole world. It looks like they do use NOAA, but not the web and xml > > services I used in that portlet. They use METAR: > > http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/metar.shtml > > > > Here's a list of station names that they have weather data for in METAR: > > http://weather.noaa.gov/data/nsd_bbsss.txt > > > > Here's a java project that retrieves and parses METAR data. Its license > > is LGPL which should work for ja-sig: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/jweather/ > > > > Looks like a good option to me. What do you think? > > > > thanks, > > Brad Johnson > > Texas Tech University > > > > > > On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 17:16 -0700, Dustin S. icedout3e-at-gmail.com | > > JASIG-List-2| wrote: > > > It is proving to be a difficult, if not impossible thing to find an > > > international service that is ABSOLUTELY free and allows commercial > > > usage. > > > > > > Right now the two choices of international services are: > > > > > > 1.) Accuweather.com - currently in contact with, unsure as to the > > > status of commercial usage. Their service will require a link back to > > > accuweather and an accuweather logo. > > > > > > 2.) Weather.com SDK - I have looked at license, it requires > > > registration on user part to even use as well as a limit of 25,000 > > > requests, a logo, and at least 3 link backs. > > > > > > Personally I don't mind the usage of a logo or link backs since you > > > can't really get away from them (they're providing a service that > > > costs them money). We use Yahoo Weather at our university which > > > requires clickbacks and logo's and its worked out great. > > > > > > What do others think about this? Are logo's and clickbacks ok or no? > > > > > > If logo's and clickbacks's are not an option then providing an > > > international weather portlet may require the usage of several weather > > > feeds. > > > > > > For U.S. and surround waters we could use: NOAA. > > > Other places: ??? > > > > > > Brad, can you look and see if you can find any other services outside > > > of the U.S. that provide weather entirely free? I will take a look as > > > well in case we need to run this route. > > > > > > Also, can any foreign users chime in if they are using a weather > > > service that is entirely free (like NOAA)? > > > > > > On Feb 12, 2008 2:11 PM, Brad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 13:34 -0700, Dustin S. > > icedout3e-at-gmail.com | > > > JASIG-List-2| wrote: > > > > Brad, > > > > > > > > Thanks. I checked it out and built the project. Everything > > packaged > > > > fine. I did not actually deploy it yet. > > > > > > > > We are shooting for an international portlet and from my > > > > understanding, the NOAA service did not provide > > international weather. > > > > From what I read, it only provided U.S. and surround waters. > > Can you > > > > confirm this? > > > > > > Hello Dustin, > > > > > > Yep, NOAA is only for US and surrounding waters. > > > > > > Is there a royalty free, unlimited access, international > > > weather service to be had? I reviewed the agreements of the > > > various weather services discussed in September on the > > > uportal-users list and didn't find any of their agreements to > > > be acceptable. My search was > > > probably not exhaustive, though. > > > > > > Here's the attributes that I think we would need in a service > > > (these are up for discussion): > > > > > > - basic weather information > > > (hi/low/current/condition/forecast , etc.) > > > - covers the US > > > (international weather will likely be a separate task) > > > - no attribution requirement > > > - no logo requirement > > > - no limit on number of areas to get weather for > > > - allow commercial use > > > > > > The NOAA XML weather service doesn't seem to have a > > > restrictive Terms of Use policy. http://www.nws.noaa.gov/xml/ > > > The other services seem to have unacceptable restrictions. > > > Here are some highlights I've collected (back in September) > > > from each source's terms of use policy that seems to make them > > > inappropriate for inclusion in a default uPortal weather > > > channel: > > > > > > == yahoo.com T&C == > > > http://developer.yahoo.com/weather/#terms > > > > > > ... "The feeds are provided free of charge for use by > > > individuals and non-profit organizations for personal, > > > non-commercial uses. We ask that you provide attribution to > > > Yahoo! Weather in connection with your use of the feeds." ... > > > > > > == weather.com.au == > > > http://www.weather.com.au/about/rss > > > > > > ..."You may only use up to 10 different weather locations per > > > domain. If you require more than this, please contact us for > > > authorization first. > > > * A link back to weather.com.au must be provided for > > > every > > > location you display weather for on your site. The URL > > > to link > > > back to is provided in the feed using the <link> tag. > > > * If you wish to display icons, these must be linked > > > directly to > > > the icons hosted on our server. You may not copy the > > > icons and > > > host them on your own server. The full URL to each > > > applicable > > > icon is included in the feed."... > > > > > > > > > == weather.com == > > > http://www.weather.com/weather/rss/subscription# > > > ..."The RSS Service is for personal, non-commercial use only. > > > Any other uses, including without limitation the incorporation > > > of advertising into or the placement of advertising associated > > > with or targeted towards the RSS Content, are strictly > > > prohibited. You may not add any content to the > > > RSS Service."... > > > ======================================= > > > > > > If there is an acceptable free international weather service > > > then that's great, but for us "free" is more important than > > > "international". I > > > imagine the same would be true for everyone no matter if they > > > are in the US or not. We might need to make the weather > > > service plug-able to take > > > advantage of various regional free weather services. > > > > > > thanks, > > > Brad Johnson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dustin. > > > > > > > > On Feb 12, 2008 12:35 PM, Brad Johnson < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > Hey Dustin and Andrew, > > > > > > > > I've committed the code > > > > > > > > to > > /sandbox/WeatherPortlet/branches/texastech-noaa-maven . > > > > > > > > Go ahead and take a look. It builds with Maven 2 > > now. Let me > > > > know if you > > > > have problems building it. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, there are screenshots in the /docs directory. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Brad Johnson > > > > Texas Tech University > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 08:29 -0700, Dustin S. > > > > icedout3e-at-gmail.com | > > > > > JASIG-List-2| wrote: > > > > > Brad, > > > > > > > > > > Like Andrew said, branches would be a more > > appropriate place > > > > to put > > > > > it. Thanks for the contribution. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Dustin. > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 2008 8:19 AM, Andrew Petro < > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Brad, > > > > > > > > > > I'd suggest committing your code seed > > somewhere more > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > > /sandbox/WeatherPortlet/branches/texastech-noaa-seed > > > > > > > > > > or the like, allowing Dustin Schultz et > > al. to > > > > review this > > > > > before svn > > > > > copying it to trunk as the starting point > > for this > > > > effort (or > > > > > not, > > > > > harvesting parts of it for that effort > > instead). > > > > > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brad Johnson wrote: > > > > > > Hello Ja-sig > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a working weather portlet that > > uses the new > > > > NOAA > > > > > weather service > > > > > > XML API. Is written using spring portlet > > MVC. I > > > > believe, it > > > > > would be a > > > > > > good starting point for the > > jasig-weather > > > > portlet. It uses > > > > > ant for the > > > > > > build process, but should be simple to > > build with > > > > maven. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to go ahead and commit this > > to > > > > > > the /sandbox/WeatherPortlet/trunk as a > > starting > > > > point. 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