iirc from Camp, SSP has some kind of administrative UI for management of
many labels in the UI.
https://wiki.jasig.org/display/SSP/SSP+v2.3+Customizable+Student+Intake+Labels
Might be a good use of conference time to get f2f again on how that's
implemented and how to bring that feature into uPortal.
Andrew
PS: One of my tasks for today is to update Wisconsin's XSLT's hard-coded
values of some of our UI labels, so it's one of those moments where
better handling of managing UI labels seems quite welcome.
On 5/9/14, 12:20 PM, James Wennmacher wrote:
+1 on improving visual-based UI and system configuration. One thing
that would be good to think about is how much to put in the db, how
much to put in files, and improving how to sync them so we can still
keep everything needed to build up the system in git. Having a UI
manipulate configuration files doesn't mean we have to lose ability to
check everything in to git (though it does make it harder). Also
worth discussing is what error messages need to be improved to help
reduce barriers for new adopters. I'll add this to the doc. Alas, I
won't be able to make it to the conference. :-(
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On 05/09/2014 08:29 AM, Tim Raymond wrote:
+1 for this approach Drew.
I have enjoyed the ability to use the files checked in to git to
manage migrations between our envs and would not want to lose that
either. Fortunately we have phenomenal people on this project that
can determine a fantastic implementation of meeting the need to have
robust online configuration AND file based configuration.
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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [uportal-dev] Post-conference collaboration
Tim,
I'm 100% game for improving the UI-based management features in uPortal.
I agree that there's plenty of room for growth, and that these
features would be a significant benefit for driving platform adoption.
At the same time, I never want to loose the ability to check all my
configuration, design, and content choices into Git for a 100%
repeatable, single shell-based command, completely-from-scratch build
(and promotion to prod) process. I would prefer not to go in a
direction where keeping several deployments up to date means
repeating a bunch of manual steps.
I'm happy to further this discussion in the dev days and throughout
the conference (or really any time). :)
drew
On 05/09/2014 07:41 AM, Tim Raymond wrote:
I will be there... hoping for a seat at the adults table :-)
I have added the following to the document on a separate page in
case this is not the appropriate forum for my thoughts. My page
could then be easily deleted.
Is there a current strategy document or "guiding principles" for the
project? If not are such things a good idea? I am looking at this
from a VERY big picture perspective.
As a new adopter, most of my focus is on the barrier to adoption of
uPortal, both from the documentation (I know Laura is updating that)
and use perspectives.
The platform is powerful, but (IMHO) unless or until more can be
done through an online interface (no xml config/import required), we
will never breakout into larger adoption. Imagine how awesome it
would be to have the ability to create a new layout, with an
interface that allows the admin to drag and drop any portlet into
ANY region, and define the page and region properties all though
their browser, no XML required! Maybe this touches on Andrew's point
about beyond DLM?
I like to think about Wordpress as an example. From a Wordpress
adopter standpoint, files very rarely (if ever) need to be touched.
Aside from rare use cases, the entire system can be configured,
extended, and administered through an online interface.
I received a direct email from someone at another institution that
was evaluating uPortal at the same time we were... they chose to use
Wordpress instead and tried to convince me we should too. I was not
swayed to the dark side, but his argument is a compelling one for
potential adopters. If the platform does not evolve into a more user
friendly format, a format that people expect in today's web
environment, it will at best maintain current adoption rates, and at
worst see adoption erode.
Tim Raymond
Director, Central Applications
Instructional and Information Technology California State Polytechnic
University, Pomona
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew
Petro
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 6:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [uportal-dev] Post-conference collaboration
Worth using a Google Doc to organize who's there when and what to
discuss/work on?
https://docs.google.com/a/apereo.org/document/d/1cTErN-DwtILPv8L2jlhIz
IlUEjMv7FgIhDAFaUBEgYE/edit#
Anyone with the link can edit that, but better if you log in!
Andrew
On 5/9/14, 8:14 AM, Drew Wills wrote:
I believe I will be there.
drew
On 05/09/2014 05:14 AM, Jim Helwig wrote:
Who is planning on remaining in Miami on the Thursday following the
conference for additional collaboration time?
Thoughts on topics to focus post-conference collaborative
development and/or discussion around?
JimH
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