On 02/09/2012 04:54 AM, Michael Chean wrote:
When I'm considering a tool I look at the community resources to see
whether they are
being kept up. For instance the RunRev forum, why is it that the last
announcement
of a new release was 4.6? Do the RunRev staff answer questions? Why are
there so many queries
that languish? Why do many of the tools including YogaSQL seem to have
had their last release
a year or more ago? Not trying to troll here, but just wondering what your
impression are.
Has RunRev been growing? The language is so elegant I keep thinking that
there is something
I'm missing as to why it's not more popular.
Mike
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My impression is that the Livecode Use-list (i.e. this list) is alive and
hopping.
As far as I understand the RunRev staff tend only to answer questions to
Enterprise customers.
"missing as to why it's not more popular"
that, I think, comes down to snobbery and the desire to keep one's mystique:
I know several C++ developers here in Bulgaria; when I tell them my history:
MiniFortran, Fortran, BASIC, PASCAL, ZYLOG, Hypercard, Toolbook,
RunRev/Livecode
they start looking at me very oddly indeed right after ZYLOG, as they
regard object-based
stuff as kiddy-toys. On being shown Livecode they also start curling
their lips as it is,
at least superficially, extremely easy to get something up-and-running
licketty split;
they always say the same thing; "that isn't REAL computer programming" -
which is,
of course, nonsense. Oddly enough there are lots and lots of people who
believe in
all sorts of nonsense, and as long as it doesn't interfere with their
normal day-to-day
interaction with the world, it doesn't cause them any problems.
Part of the problem maybe the Hypercard legacy; in that it was packaged
as a sort of
Lego-kit programming toy, and its successrs such as Supercard, Metacard
and Livecode
carry that 'stain', and Toolbook is still marketed as a sort of
hopped-up Powerpoint for
teachers (far from it, I had a hell of a job getting my head around it
when I used it in
1998-2000).
Livecode CAN be used as a Lego-kit programming toy; but anybody but the
most basic users
are going to want to go a bit further than that pretty rapidly. One can
go incredibly far if
one so wishes.
I am writing this using Thunderbird e-mail client on a computer running a
Debian-derivative distro of Linux: I am quite unable to see why people
continue to use
Microsoft Windows (and pay for it); the vast majority of people think I
am daft.
The attitudes towards Livecode and Linux are very similar.
Richmond Mathewson.
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