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On 2/8/12 4:54 PM, Michael Chean wrote:
When I'm considering a tool I look at the community resources to see
whether they are
being kept up.  For instance the RunRev forum,  why is it that the last
announcement
of a new release was 4.6?  Do the RunRev staff answer questions?  Why are
there so many queries
that languish?   Why do many of the tools including YogaSQL seem to have
had their last release
a year or more ago?  Not trying to troll here, but just wondering what your
impression are.
Has RunRev been growing?  The language is so elegant I keep thinking that
there is something
I'm missing as to why it's not more popular.

Mike
Aloha, Mike:

xTalk has been in the application development world since the day Hypercard started in the late 80's. LiveCode is the evolution of that set of tools but like modern man in relation to an earlier sub-species.

My Point is simply this: xTalk is never, ever, going to die. It is like some species on the planet that have been with us through many extinction cycles, but which has survived each one. LiveCode is the current Elephant which carries xTalk to the latest robust level, able to uproot entire forests in a few days.

It is a very powerful species of programming that can eat any set of requirements or use cases alive (get you thru the project from beginning to end) faster than any other language you might try to use.

Just because there is a lot of noise about it on the net, doesn't make the language your best choice. Someone once tried to sell me on using Drupal for web/CMS because they had so many hits, but that's only because Drupal is so nasty. You have to practically go to Univerisity to use it, or pay for support big time. If you get a CMS that really works, then you find the developers are very "quiet" because the thing just works and instead of spending all their time posting issues on the forums, they are busy getting content up and online (OC Portal is a good example of something that "just works")

So the good stuff that "just works" has less chatter in the digital sphere, but that doesn't mean its "inferior" Alexander makes a good point that we have no idea who uses LiveCode for what. Here at Himalayan Academy Publications I/we use it for everything imaginable, desktop clients for Hinduism Today International daily blog, build web slide shows. I have an international network of volunteers using desktop clients to download audio files, transcript and upload to our web server where almost all the CGI is LiveCode. The Great Adobe's Version Cue for In house document revision control was a) a horribly buggy beast which cost our editorial team 100's of hours. b) they killed it in the end. Instead of going for some Digital Asset Manager that would meet our needs, I wrote my on revision control system for InDesign files in less that 3 weeks of time (part time). I have a few "apps" on line that I built in circa 2000 that *still* get downloaded and run fine on Windows or Mac.



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