--- Frank Leahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Geoff, > > -- Going native WinXP appearance -- bug fix. > -- More OSX appearance support -- either a bug > fix or a very minor > feature that isn't worth $299. > -- Distribution builder fixes -- bug fix. > -- Support for more Windows icons -- bug fix. > -- Improved database controls -- is this new > functionality (with new > Transcript commands) or bug fixes? > -- Numerous bug fixes -- bug fixes. > > I don't mean to be a bore, but that list sounds like > mostly bug fixes > to me. > > -- Other feauture enhancements > > Hmmm, not enough info to know if there are enough > features to get > current 2.1.2 users (e.g. me) to pony up $299 to > upgrade. > > Looking at the list you gave, personally I'd rather > have a 2.1.3 with > just the bug fixes. > > Also, you mentioned a public 2.2 beta -- I couldn't > find it on the web > site anywhere -- is it really "public"? > > Best, > -- Frank >
Hi Frank, Usually I just stay out of this type of discussion : after all, I'm a happy Rev-user and in spite of the occasional snag I run into, I find it very usable. Does that mean it's perfect? No, but the way some people are talking on this list it's a surprise anyone can use it, and that is an unfair statement. Allow me to comment on your aswers to Geoff : -- Going native WinXP appearance -- bug fix. It's not because my programs run on WinXP that they automagically get the look and feel. What I write in FoxPro doesn't look XP-like either. In fact, there are plenty of programs that don't adhere to the new WinXP theme. I conside this an enhancement. -- More OSX appearance support -- either a bug fix or a very minor feature that isn't worth $299. Of course I have no idea of what your background is, but the Apple engineers whanged their minds again and introduced a new API to take advantage of the Panther abilities. A logical enhancement, I'd say. -- Distribution builder fixes -- bug fix. You mae it sound like nobody could build stand-alones with the old one. Granted, the new standalone builder is easier to use and has more features. But to call a rewrite and new interface a bugfix ? Let's keep this conversation at a serious level. -- Support for more Windows icons -- bug fix. Again, we're talking about new features that other development environments may have introduced long before RunRev, but I don't expect my older applications to get a shiny new icon. Adding features is not a bugfix. -- Improved database controls -- is this new functionality (with new Transcript commands) or bug fixes? Actually, since I contributed this code, I know what I'm talking about when I say this is not a bugfix, but rather a set of additional features that should make it a lot easier for people to link their stacks to databases. In version 2.2, you will be able to : - for field controls : decide whether you want to load and save the text, unicodetext, htmltext or rtftext - for table fields : decide which columns in the query you want to display or show all of them - for menu buttons : load the menu items to display in the menu from another query, and save either the number of the chose item, the name or the key value in the other query - for radio button groups : link them to a columln in a query, just like fields, and decide whether you're saving and loading the number or the name of the chosen item. All of these things you could do in the past with a little bit of scripting. Hence I'd qualify it as enhancements. -- Numerous bug fixes -- bug fixes. Geoff was quite honest about this : bug fixes. Bugs happen, and not all of them are easy to solve. Mayb there should be more of an effort to fix bugs in earlier version. But in the company I work for we have a similar situation, where sometimes it's easier to just completely rewrite a module ; if it's intermixed with engine changes, it may not be easy to write it in a way that it can also be deployed on older versions. Apple didn't release Safari 1.2 for MacOSX 10.2 because it relies on a library that requires MacOSX 10.3. While we can and should expect Revolution to stay up to date in all areas, bug-free and with things that other environments don't offer, I also realise what type of resources this needs. I'm quite happy with the way it evolves, and with the focus on bug-fixing for the upcoming and the next release, I see a lot of the annoying little things squished, as well as major issues in areas I don't even use. And you can rest assured that steps are being taken to allow for a more modular update system, so bugfixes can be introduced more rapidly in the future. Just my two euro-cents, Jan Schenkel. ===== "As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time." (La Rochefoucauld) __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you�re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
