On 3/28/05 9:15 AM, "Mikey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you are coming from HyperCard or SuperCard, I agree, backgrounds can be >> frustrating, but only if you think of them as "backgrounds". If you rather >> think of them as shared groups (much like sharedText is for fields), then it >> is conceptually easier. I understand why in many cases Rev uses "background" >> and "group" interchangeably, but it can certainly be confusing for people >> used to traditional backgrounds. > I think I understand the way groups operate, but the vocabulary is > not, IMHO descriptive. If you look at the buttons - Group, Edit > Group, and Select Grouped, that isn't exactly what is meant, now is > it? In addition, the changes to the icons with color and bolding > don't intuitively trigger anything, at least at first. Now is bold > when it's property is active or inactive? Is the red background > when...
I agree that the toolbar is confusing and should be redesigned. It has a mixture of commands and states which begs for redesign. Here's the summary: Group (Command): --------------------- Active when one or more objects are selected. Takes the currently selected objects and groups them. Emboldens to show that the selection is grouped. Click it again to ungroup (personally I think the button should change to say "Ungroup" instead of remaining with the label "Group", but that's me). [Implements the "group" and "ungroup" Transcript command.] Edit Group (Command): --------------------------- Active when a group is selected. Goes "into" a group, allowing you to modify objects within a group. Emboldens to show that you are currently editing a group. Click it again to go "out of" a group and return back to the normal card editing environment (once again, I think this should say "Stop Editing Group", or the equivalent). [Implements the "start editing" and "stop editing" Transcript commands.] Select Grouped (State): --------------------------- Active at all times. When clicked, you can now use the pointer tool to select objects inside of a group without having to go "into" the group. In this state, the group itself cannot be selected. It is filled with red when the pointer tool selects objects inside a group, and not filled with red when the pointer tool selects the group, not its objects. [Implements the "selectGroupedControls" Transcript global property.] HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ use-revolution mailing list [email protected] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
