Interesting. At first it looks straightforward:

1. If a factor is by definition an integer that when multipilied by another integer yields the number we're interested in as a product, then factors have to come
        in pairs. (It takes two to multiply.)
2. "Odd number of factors" is therefore a contradiction in terms, unless "factor" is
        shifted to mean "unique factor".
3. If a number has a pair of factors that are identical (so not unique, so they only "count" once), then it's the product of that factor (which provably can't be either 1 or the number itself), times that factor, which is the definition of a
        square.

So "having an odd number of factors" is a sufficient condition for being "a square".

But it doesn't seem to be a necessary condition. The factors of 36 -- by the double definition you have to use in order to make sense of the statement of the problem -- are either
                        1   36   2   2   3   3
or
                        1   36   2   3
-- which counted one way amount to 6 and the other, 4, neither of which is conspicuously odd. It looks to me as though old Tom is wrong. Gee, does that ever happen?

Charles


On Nov 24, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Jim Hurley wrote:


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On Nov 23, 2005, at 6:07 PM, Jim Hurley wrote:


All those numbers are called perfect squares. And only they have an odd number of factors, because one of the factors is the square root of the number in question. For example, nine has three factors, 1 and 9 and 3. [I confess, I can't see how this follows. Jim]


Well, because 9 has four factors -- 1, 3, 3, and 9 -- two of which are assigned to the same chain-puller, who however only pulls the chain once.

Charles



Charles,

I expressed myself badly. What I meant was that I didn't see how this one example proved the theorem. A proof needs to show how the theorem follows for all perfect squares and only for perfect squares, i.e. it must be both a necessary and sufficient condition.

Jim
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