So, right this minute, without a "cert", if I distribute an application for Windows on a CD or download from a website, what is the user's experience? Seems like just another one of M$'s ploys to make money on everything that goes into a Window's computer; but many times over. Rather astute strategy I should think. Just one more reason to dislike the Window's platform.

Joe Wilkins

On May 22, 2007, at 5:11 AM, Scott Kane wrote:

Hi Bill, Jacqui and all,

That's neither possible nor desirable.

Indeed. It would be grounds for a cert to be pulled by the authenticator.

It's not possible because the code signing takes into account a checksum for the whole .exe (along with other factors) and that is different with every application created, even though the embedded engine is the same.

Yep. That's exactly right. If it were even possible then every IDE developer on the planet would be issueing their programmer customers with cert's and that would make the cert's useless. The whole point is to make each application unique, identifiable and trackable (a cert can be pulled by Microsoft or their authorized issuer which brings up an even nastier dialog box). Each cert' applicant is verified manually (by a human) with human readable documentation.

It's not desirable because then any miscreant could download a trial copy of Rev, write the next great trojan horse virus malware spybot and it would appear to have been "signed" by Runtime Rev.

Which is the whole point of the cert' as Bill rightly says.

In Windows XP, unsigned applications aren't so bad. But the end user experience gets much worse under Windows Vista, especially with limited accounts and UAC active. Signing applications is something anyone who distributes on Windows should know about. I hope Scott writes up the article.

Judging by the reaction I'd say writing it is a go and I'm going to enquire about getting a special price for RR customers but I can't guarantee that so don't hold me to it as it will probably depend on the number of potential customers. I'll get onto it this week and submit it to Heather etc and hopefully they'll publish it in the near future. :-)

Scott Kane
"When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong."
Arthur C Clarke
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