Perhaps I should add to my post below. I was a bit hasty in many aspects. Lol.

What I cant recommend is the tweaking I needed to do to balance the horizontal 
rectangle light sensitivity with the vertical back drop light sensitivity. The 
two planes are at different angles to the main light source as indicated by the 
shadows in the back drop picture and so they receive light at different values. 
Since I had balance this by eye I suggest it is not ideal.

But firstly, while I couldnt get Arjo's recommendation of self illumination to 
work is probably my error and would overcome the issue above.

Secondly, the light sensitivity source does not have to be in the same place as 
the image target light source. So if it was a distance light at 45 degrees to 
both planes, balancing by eye wouldnt be needed.

The problem with balancing by eye is that the light sensitivity source must not 
move - it would be tricky maintain balance of light input on the two planes. 
But again, a constant angle equidistant could sort this plus that particular 
light source doesnt have to move at all. 

The image mapping to both the back vertical plane and the ground plane must 
always be aligned to the camera POV of course so limited panning might be Ok 
but again animation might be tricky. No issue for stills of course. 

Lastly, turn of "casts shadows" in the light sens light source as well as the 
two mapped planes. 

Perhaps Arjo or someone could go a bit further on the self illumination trick. 
I just couldnt get it to work like that.

N.



________________________________
From: Neil Cooke <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 16 May, 2010 2:37:10 AM
Subject: Re: Matte shadows


Got it, thanks Arjo,

I attach a jpg but not sure it will get to the list. 

And while it's a solution, I cant recommend it. Lol. 

In any case, uses light sensitivity controller material rather than self 
illumination (on left). 

N.



________________________________
From: Arjo Rozendaal <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, 16 May, 2010 1:10:44 AM
Subject: RE: Matte shadows

 
Hi Neil,
 
I guess he means a shadow from an object on a background plate.
So the car is 3D, the road is a picture. But you should see a shadow of the
object on the background picture.
What you need is a horizontal rectangle. Project the image on
this rectangle from the camera viewpoint. The material should be self
illuminating, so that regular lights have no influence on it.
Put the car on top of this plane, and it will drop a shadow on
it. Of course you need another vertical rectangle with the same camera mapped
picture to serve as a background.
I hope this answer is clear enough.
 
Arjo.
 
Van:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Namens Neil Cooke
Verzonden: zaterdag 15 mei 2010 2:23
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: Matte shadows
 
I
dont know what a matte shadow is. Matte, to me means "excluded by
shape" ... some shape is not included in some part of the effect.
 
But
all this is easy in RS.. 
 
For
soft edge shadows I use a rectangle as a special light ... I would use this to
get a soft edge shadow under a car for example.
 
If
any of the above is any use, let me know and I'll give more detail, but I dont
think it's what you are after.
 
Sorry
I cant help.
 
Neico
 

________________________________
 
From:Ville Tirronen
<[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, 15 May, 2010 11:48:57 AM
Subject: Re: Matte shadows

Just normal matte shadows for composition. I recall I saw one tut from 
internet
which had a car and pavement made with RS, but now I cannot find it 
anymore.
I tried tut from manual, but it gives incorrect shadows. Perhaps I 
should export
only shadows for composition. Only problem is that I don't know how to 
do that.

Ville

>
> On 05/15/2010 01:06 AM, Matthias Kappenberg wrote:
>> Maybe my mail was not beeing forwarded:
>>
>> Which tutorial do you mean,
>> and what should be the result / is exspected ?
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:<[email protected]>
>> To:<[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:25 PM
>> Subject: Matte shadows
>>
>>
>>> Any good tutorials for correct soft matte shadows?
>>> Tutorial in the manual shows shadows incorrectly.
>>>
>>> Ville
>>>
>>
>

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