Greg a) I DO understand that Magnolia needs to put as much effort as possible in the new Magnolia, really. What I do not understand however (and along with me even some people at Magnolia) is how NOT providing an EXISTING and CRUCIAL bugfix to CE users helps you here.
b) You don't need to convince ME to upgrade to a newer version. I'm all in favor of Magnolia 5. You'll need to convince our customers that they need to invest _again_ in an upgrade which is _again_ not smooth/automatic as we used to have it from Magnolia 1 until Magnolia 4.4. What we get to hear from them is: "What? The upgrade is so complicated? That's strange. You know, on this other website, that I am involved with – it's running on [insert your choice of SMB CMS here] – we never had these problems". Of course they do have other problems, but still... But as Magnolia never has to deal with SMB customers I can understand that it's hard for you to see it from this point of view. We on our side never missed a chance to convince our customers to upgrade. But transitions like this take time. And I do hope that transitions will be smoother agin in the future. After all it's been a bumpy ride: - 4.x: Introduction of STK > Everybody was "encouraged" to use STK > involved a big investment - 4.5: Switch to STK 2 > Again everybody was "encouraged" to upgrade > huge investment - 5: Switch to Vaadin > I don't think that "encouraged" is the right word here anymore... ;-) - 5.x: "STK has to go, and go fast" (Quote by the CVO) > The next rupture seems to be waiting around the corner although this was downplayed at the conference. Although I see the reasoning behind each of these changes, there's just so much bumps in the road an integrator and it's customers can handle. I personally think the road has been bumpy enough lately, don't you? Forcing the drivers to go full speed on a bumpy road will only lead to accidents... -will On 23.08.2014, at 01:42, Grégory Joseph (via Magnolia Forums) <[email protected]> wrote: > Will, Thomas, > > We (the Magnolia team) need to focus our efforts. Every second we spend in > maintaining older versions is 5 seconds we can’t spend on improving newer > stuff. 4.5 has been released over 2 years ago ! It has entered what we > internally call “maintenance mode” 10 months ago - from there on, we do very > minimal maintenance, and provide fix releases for our customers. The existing > code (at the time of the “switch”) remains however public. > > Can we help convincing you to upgrade to a newer version instead of dwelling > on the past ? ;) > > -- > Context is everything: > http://forum.magnolia-cms.com/forum/thread.html?threadId=12062a64-61fb-4f13-aa66-53f52ca30e6f > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > For list details, see http://www.magnolia-cms.com/community/mailing-lists.html > Alternatively, use our forums: http://forum.magnolia-cms.com/ > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <[email protected]> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- For list details, see http://www.magnolia-cms.com/community/mailing-lists.html Alternatively, use our forums: http://forum.magnolia-cms.com/ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <[email protected]> ----------------------------------------------------------------
