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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:59 AM, Kant Kodali <k...@peernova.com> wrote: > https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/guide/ > current/_java_virtual_machine.html > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:58 AM, Kant Kodali <k...@peernova.com> wrote: > >> The fact is Oracle is horrible :) >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:54 AM, Brice Dutheil <brice.duth...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Let's not debate opinion on the Oracle stewardship here, we certainly >>> have different views that come from different experiences. >>> >>> Let's discuss facts instead :) >>> >>> -- Brice >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:34 AM, Kant Kodali <k...@peernova.com> wrote: >>> >>>> yeah well I don't think Oracle is treating Java the way Google is >>>> treating Go and I am not a big fan of Go mainly because I understand the >>>> JVM is far more robust than anything that is out there. >>>> >>>> "Oracle just doesn't understand open source" These are the words from >>>> James Gosling himself >>>> >>>> I do think its better to stay away from Oracle as we never know when >>>> they would switch open source to closed source. Given their history of >>>> practices their statements are not credible. >>>> >>>> I am pretty sure the community would take care of OpenJDK. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 2:04 AM, Brice Dutheil <brice.duth...@gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> The problem described in this article is different than what you have >>>>> on your servers and I’ll add this article should be reaad with caution, as >>>>> The Register is known for sensationalism. The article itself has no >>>>> substantial proof or enough details. In my opinion this article is >>>>> clickbait. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway there’s several point to think of instead of just swicthing to >>>>> OpenJDK : >>>>> >>>>> - >>>>> >>>>> There is technical differences between Oracle JDK and openjdk. >>>>> Where there’s licensing issues some libraries are closed source in >>>>> Hotspot >>>>> like font, rasterizer or cryptography and OpenJDK use open source >>>>> alternatives which leads to different bugs or performance. I believe >>>>> they >>>>> also have minor differences in the hotspot code to plug in stuff like >>>>> Java >>>>> Mission Control or Flight Recorder or hotpost specific options. >>>>> Also I believe that Oracle JDK is more tested or more up to date >>>>> than OpenJDK. >>>>> >>>>> So while OpenJDK is functionnaly the same as Oracle JDK it may not >>>>> have the same performance or the same bugs or the same security fixes. >>>>> (Unless are your ready to test that with your production servers and >>>>> your >>>>> production data). >>>>> >>>>> I don’t know if datastax have released the details of their >>>>> configuration when they test Cassandra. >>>>> - >>>>> >>>>> There’s also a question of support. OpeJDK is for the community. >>>>> Oracle can offer support but maybe only for Oracle JDK. >>>>> >>>>> Twitter uses OpenJDK, but they have their own JVM support team. >>>>> Not sure everyone can afford that. >>>>> >>>>> As a side note I’ll add that Oracle is paying talented engineers to >>>>> work on the JVM to make it great. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- Brice >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:55 AM, Kant Kodali <k...@peernova.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Looking at this http://www.theregister.co >>>>>> .uk/2016/12/16/oracle_targets_java_users_non_compliance/?mt= >>>>>> 1481919461669 I don't know why Cassandra recommends Oracle JVM? >>>>>> >>>>>> JVM is a great piece of software but I would like to stay away from >>>>>> Oracle as much as possible. Oracle is just horrible the way they are >>>>>> dealing with Java in General. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
