I am basically -1 on changing the Logo because of the before discussed points as I don't share them. Bit I have to admit, that I start to find the idea interesting to change the Logo with 2.0. It could be refreshing and would underline the major release ... But this is maybe a bit off topic
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 21:34 Alexander Shorin <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm -1 on logo change. At least until a replacement will be provided > to decide is it worth to or not. Speaking about changing logo without > providing any alternatives for exited one is pointless: roll the > options and we'll vote. As for current one I like it. > -- > ,,,^..^,,, > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Andrey Cherkashin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > My 2¢: original node.js logo was unreadable barely anyone even seen it > because it was displayed only on main website. New node.js logo shows the > truth - rough edges everywhere. Not to say, personally, I find original > logo of node.js ugly and meaningless. Meanwhile, CouchDB logo is pretty > stylish and meaningful, I mean I even have the same couch at my place. No > mater what it will be changed to it will always offend someone; maybe new > logo will offend someone quite/smart enough not to care about how logo > looks like and care about product itself. > > -- > > Andrey Cherkashin > > Sent with Airmail > > > > On October 28, 2014 at 12:56:10 PM, Robert Kowalski ([email protected]) > wrote: > > > > +1 to change the logo. Thank you Joan for pointing this out - and I also > > agree with Andy, Lena, Jason & Bryan. > > > > I have an interesting side note from changing logos in Open Source > Projects: > > > > I hang around in the Node.js community for some years, they did change > the > > logo (this is the old one: > > http://chetansurpur.com/images/blog/2010/10/node-logo.png) and there > was a > > lot of discussion in the node community around that (this is the new one: > > http://nodejs.org/logo.png). A lot of people really liked the old logo > and > > there was alot of discussion and sad faces about changing the logo. These > > days nobody wants the old logo back and most people don't even know that > > there was an old logo. > > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm a new comer to this community and so will be missing a lot of > >> background ... > >> > >> My view is that a logo embodies more than just the graphics and is a > >> crucial part of the brand image being put out. Therefore, changing a > logo > >> is not something that should be done without considerable thought. > >> > >> I would very much agree with Thomas that there may be a case for > employing > >> a professional to come up with an alternative logo based on answers that > >> the community will them as to what exactly it is the brand should > portray. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Justin > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Thomas Lindgren [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: 28 October 2014 08:36 > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Improved CouchDB logo > >> > >> If you want to change the logo, I recommend doing it the > >> professional/business way: putting up some money and hiring a good > design > >> firm. They've done it before and have a broader perspective. Basically, > let > >> them ask you the questions about the brand; no design back seat driving > >> from you; choose among the alternatives they give you, or ask for more. > >> > >> Best, > >> Thomas > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Andy Wenk <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > first of all thanks to Joan for bringing this up. As Paul stated, if > >> > someone is feeling attacked we should discuss it. > >> > > >> > I have viewed (if not gazed) the logo for several minutes. I can > >> > understand that someone is seeing a man with a maybe vulgar attitude. > >> > I personally don't see that. The whole idea combined with the "Relax" > >> > statement fits perfectly together. > >> > > >> > Then I started to ask Luigi, our senior designer, and asked him what > >> > he sees. He said "a relaxed man on a couch" (he did not know the term > >> > relax btw.). I asked him why he said "a man". He answered, because > >> > mostly men are hanging around on a couch like this. > >> > > >> > So yes, it is a relaxed man and someone could interpret his attitude > >> > vulgar or offensive. But it's still a relaxed man with no other > >> > intention. Nothing more. I am not sure why someone could assume, that > >> > the logo's meaning or intention should be something else than that. > >> > > >> > As a member of this community, I am feeling very responsible to not > >> > harm anyone. Be it women or men. In this case, I don't see a problem > >> > personally but I will for sure help to find a solution if we decide to > >> > change the logo. > >> > > >> > First shot for a minimal change: let the man cross his left leg over > >> > his right leg. Unfortunately this is not simple to do as my colleague > >> > Luigi noted. It would mean to also change the position of the man and > >> > maybe the size of the couch. > >> > > >> > Cheers > >> > > >> > Andy > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 28 October 2014 08:40, Pedro Narciso García Revington < > >> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > I like the logo and I do not see the reason to change it. > >> > > > >> > > 2014-10-28 1:27 GMT+01:00 Joan Touzet <[email protected]>: > >> > > > >> > > > At 3 different conferences I've attended in 2014: CloudantCON > >> > > > 2014, OSCON 2014 and Velocity NYC 2014, I've been approached by > >> > > > people complaining about the CouchDB logo. The argument is that > >> > > > the logo looks like a man who is posed in a suggestive way, or as > >> > > > one person put it, "showing you his crotch and inviting you over." > >> > > > > >> > > > These were not lighthearted expressions of concern to me over > >> > > > drinks - they were heartfelt complaints from people who care about > >> > > > CouchDB and its image in the open source community. > >> > > > > >> > > > I must admit I didn't think it was an issue at first, but like the > >> > > > saying goes, once you've seen it, you can't un-see it. > >> > > > > >> > > > As a reminder here is our current logo: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/couchdb/supplement/logo/couchdb-logo > . > >> > png > >> > > > > >> > > > Or in SVG: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/couchdb/supplement/logo/couchdb-logo > . > >> > svg > >> > > > > >> > > > I'd like to propose improving the logo with a new drawing that > >> > > > keeps > >> > the > >> > > > same theme - red couch, reclining figure in white - but alters the > >> > > > pose to be a bit less suggestive. Other suggestions are welcome, > >> > > > naturally, but a redrawn current-style logo probably has the least > >> objections. > >> > > > > >> > > > Of course, if we agree to such a change, I'll need your help. I > >> > > > can't draw, and I'm sure many of the rest of you can't either. If > >> > > > you're an artist, and you agree, would you consider posting an > >> > > > altered logo in reply to this thread that fixes the problem? > >> > > > > >> > > > You can find all of the source files (Adobe Illustrator) at: > >> > > > > >> > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/couchdb/supplement/logo/ > >> > > > > >> > > > -Joan > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Andy Wenk > >> > Hamburg - Germany > >> > RockIt! > >> > > >> > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 > >> > > >> > https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/andywenk.asc > >> > > >> > >> >
