nice! both a page and sending the hash link a good idea. i didn't realize but now that you say it like thats pretty clear.
- Michelle > On Jan 20, 2017, at 3:10 PM, Andy Wenk <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 20 Jan 2017, at 19:56, Michelle Phung <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> hey, >> >> i think Joels idea is a good one. what i think was meant was instead of >> current text, send an html email with buttons that would make it clearer. >> its still being accepted/unaccepted from inside their email mailbox. i can >> ping in the infra channel to see if theres any interest or maybe they have >> something in works? this still might be un-possible just because i think >> there is some security feature that only allows plain-text for emailing. but >> reworking all apache subscription emails... what a cool project if we got >> the green light! > > sure … give it a try … > >> in the mean time, maybe we can make a tutorial or web page to walk people >> thru subscription/unsubscription on the couch site? > > I once added a hashtag to the mailinglist section on the website: > http://couchdb.apache.org/#mailing-lists . There, everything is what you > need. I recommend to simply send people this link. We could also create a > “Mailinglists” Confluence page at > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COUCHDB/Community (e.g.) but I > fear we would simply write down the same what we have already at > http://couchdb.apache.org/#mailing-lists . But yeah if you think it helps - > go for it ;-). I am happy to help. > > All the best > > Andy > >> >> - Michelle >> >>> On Jan 20, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Andy Wenk <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Joel, >>> >>> I fear that we will not have a chance to add any info to the emails we send >>> over the mailinglists. As Garren said, the INFRA Team of the ASF is >>> managing all the mailinglists and it would be a huge thing to ask all >>> projects weather or not it is ok to add or change the email contents. >>> >>> On the other hand let me ask a question: why is it too difficult to send an >>> email to unsubscribe-[MAILING_LIST]@project.apache.org? Every newsletter >>> system and mailinglist is working in this way. One point to remember is the >>> fact, that these systems need to handle the subscribers privacy carefully. >>> As most likely the subscriber is owning the mailbox from his email address, >>> it is a good security practice to only accept a subscribe or unsubscribe >>> email from his email address - let’s say mailbox. And yes I know that this >>> is easily hackable. Let’s not discuss this. So I think the practice here is >>> recommended. >>> >>> The cases where people have problems with unsubscribing is really rare >>> compared to the cases where it works (my guess is 1 problem out of 500 >>> success). >>> >>> So my suggestion is simply to leave it like it is. >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> -- >>> Andy Wenk >>> RockIt! >>> >>> Hamburg / Germany >>> >>> >>>> On 20 Jan 2017, at 17:42, Garren Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Joel, >>>> >>>> The mailing lists are all managed through the Apache foundation - >>>> http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html. >>>> I'm not sure if we can add a footer. But it would be great if you could >>>> investigate further and see if we could create a web form, footer and >>>> anything else that would make it easier for people to to subscribe and >>>> unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Garren >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 10:20 PM, Joel Wallis Jucá <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hey CouchDB folks. >>>>> >>>>> We have recently seen cases such as this one of Diana Ying, with people >>>>> trying to unsubscribe but having no idea how. I think it's time to put a >>>>> little effort to solve it. >>>>> >>>>> The problem is that it might use a mailing system that handles >>>>> unsubscribing through special email addresses. For this example, the >>>>> `user` >>>>> mailing list can have an user unsubscribed by receiving a message at >>>>> `user-unsubscribe` email address, which sends a confirmation link that, if >>>>> clicked, completes the unsubscribing process. Although it might be a known >>>>> process for old school developers/community members, it might look >>>>> confusing and/or complex to others, so we must simplify it. >>>>> >>>>> My suggestion is to add a short note as footer to every message sent by >>>>> that mailing software. Something like *"You are receiving this email >>>>> because (...). To unsubscribe, send an email to >>>>> **[email protected] >>>>> <[email protected]>** and the system will sent you a >>>>> confirmation link. Click on it and you'll be unsubscribed."*, or something >>>>> like that. >>>>> >>>>> We could even develop an HTML unsubscription form to have people following >>>>> the more common flow of clicking on a unsubscribe button/link and complete >>>>> the process through a web page. >>>>> >>>>> Does it make sense for you? Any thoughts? >>>>> >>>>> *QQ: which software does the CouchDB team use to host the mailing list?* >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Joel Wallis Jucá >>>>> joelwallis.com >>>>> >>> >
