Dear, Any Resolution on my Issues.
Please suggest any changes at guacamole server and Xrdp host server. On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 13:22, Manoj Patil <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear ivanmarcus/mike, > > The MSRDP setup is done at my end for testing purpose with same user ,same > screen,same depth etc. we measure the bandith for singile session and it is > too low. i am already sharing a snapshot in preious mail. > > *My point is if i used MSRDP web client to acees the server it take low > bandwidth utilization . when i am using guacd with xrdp it uses high > bandwidth.* > > > > On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 11:25, ivanmarcus <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Manoj, >> >> I've followed this thread with some interest, and have learnt something >> from what Mike's been saying about how Guacamole handles image compression >> etc. >> >> I'm not able to contribute much from a softwarec perspective but there >> are a couple of things that I wonder about. >> >> In your tests it appears to me that, generally, the Guacamole <-> xrdp >> traffic is much higher than Tomcat <-> browser, as one would anticipate. >> Assuming your Guacamole <-> xrdp connections to be on an internal 1GbE >> network then one would expect Tomcat <-> [external] browser experience to >> be much quicker than say xrdp <-> [external] MSRD client. >> >> In an earlier post you said: >> >> My Observation is--- >> >> we observe that in my colleague company those people used Microsoft >> remote desktop Web client (using activex) for 1200 connection in 10 Mbps >> for huge transaction. and >> >> we used Xrdp+wine+Guacamole with 600 connection with 50 Mbps bandwidth . >> >> what protocol they are used ( Microsoft remote desktop Web client ) is >> taking less bandwidth compare with Guacamole. >> >> From this I was interested to see what information there was regarding >> the bandwidth requirements for MS RD Web Client vs MS Terminal Services >> Client. >> >> I found this website article: >> >> >> https://www.rdsgurus.com/microsoft-rd-web-client-html5-performance-testing-part-1/ >> >> Although not completely clear my take on their results is that MSRDWC >> could use similar, or possibly more, bandwith than MSTSC (or it could use >> ~1/2 in some cases). They explicitly state further research is needed so >> the results should be considered provisional at this time. >> >> *If* these results are in the typical ballpark then it would seem to me >> somewhat at odds with what you said earlier, and with the results you've >> charted. >> >> To clarifiy. >> >> (1) From the article let's say MSRDWC bandwith typically = MSTSC >> bandwith. >> >> (2)You measure Guacamole <-> xrdp bandwidth significantly higher than >> Tomcat <-> browser (let's say this equates to what we'd expect typical >> MSTSC bandwidth to be). >> >> (3) Extapolating; your colleague company is using MSRDWC, therefore with >> no other changes or tuning we might ordinarily expect their bandwith >> requirements to be higher than yours since, from your's and Mike's data, >> the Tomcat <-> browser bandwidth should effectively be less than MSRDWC. >> >> (4) Yet you've said they have twice the connection numbers with 1/5 >> available bandwith, and although not stated the intimation is that their >> user's experience could be better than yours? >> >> Now I realise I'm drawing a fairly long bow, and making some pretty wild >> assumptions based on possibly erroneous data, but at this point the >> comparision just doesn't add up. >> >> There are many possibly variables that might explain this but I wonder, >> initially, if there are some other differences in what service your >> colleague company is delivering compared with yours? For example is theirs >> a much reduced colour depth, is it limited to a specific app with little >> screen updates, do they have burst mode data capacity, do they have fewer >> _concurrent_ users etc? >> >> Ultimately Mike has said several times that you simply need to allocate >> more resource for what you're doing, but it may assist yourself and the >> community if you could obtain a similar bandwith log from your colleague >> company as you have for yours. It would be good if the data were >> standardised as much as possible (ie. perform exactly the same desktop >> tasks) and the same colour depth settings etc were utilised. >> >> If this were effected I think we'd have a much better idea as to the >> bandwith requirements of Guacamole vs MSRDWC. From this one might then know >> if there's any real (comparative) issue between your service and that of >> your colleague company, or not. It could also give some potentially useful >> info around Guacamole/MSRDWC performance... >> >> >> On 3/03/2020 4:06 p.m., Manoj Patil wrote: >> >> What tool u used for measuring bandwidth. >> >> Is there any resolution? >> >> As per your snanshot RDP take to much bandwidth utilization . if u also >> 600 active connwction then the bandwidth utilization is around 40- 45 mbps. >> >> On Mon, 2 Mar 2020, 00:45 Mike Jumper, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 1:59 AM Manoj Patil <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear, >>>> >>>> I am deployed the Microsoft environment at my end and measure the >>>> bandwidth data send and received. >>>> using wireshark. >>>> >>>> please find the attached file one is microsoft web rdp bandwidth >>>> calculation using wireshark and second snapshot is guacamol server >>>> calculation using wireshark . >>>> >>> >>> If you want to compare bandwidth usage reliably, you will need to >>> measure and compare the two sides of the same session: one measurement >>> being the browser <--> Guacamole traffic and the other being the guacd <--> >>> RDP traffic. For example, here's my statistics for the first week of >>> December last year: >>> >>> [image: glen-demo-stats-2019-12-01-through-2019-12-07.png] >>> >>> The graph shows total Guacamole bandwidth usage (green line) against RDP >>> usage (orange line) for the same servers across all sessions. The purple >>> line is the total number of active sessions. In general, the two bandwidth >>> lines follow each other, however I've always observed the RDP line to be >>> significantly higher, presumably due to using poorer image compression. The >>> only times I've seen the Guacamole line peek (slightly) above the RDP line >>> are when there is extremely low activity. >>> >>> If you are absolutely sure that you are measuring effectively the same >>> sessions, connecting to the same RDP server, and that you are using the >>> same display size, performing the same actions, seeing the same graphics, >>> etc. between them, I'm not sure what would account for your measurements >>> showing the opposite behavior. >>> >>> - Mike >>> >>> >> > > -- > Thanks & Regards, > > Manoj Patil.(Asst. Manager DBA) > Netwin Systems & Softwares(I) Pvt.Ltd > Nasik. > Mobile No -+91-9922507588 > Email- [email protected] > -- Thanks & Regards, Manoj Patil.(Asst. Manager DBA) Netwin Systems & Softwares(I) Pvt.Ltd Nasik. Mobile No -+91-9922507588 Email- [email protected]
