Hello

I checked your example and had to tweak it a bit to build your branch:

diff --git
a/examples/karaf-docker-example/karaf-docker-example-startup-feature/pom.xml
b/examples/karaf-docker-example/karaf-docker-example-startup-feature/pom.xml
index def1e659979..a3c64c64d57 100644
---
a/examples/karaf-docker-example/karaf-docker-example-startup-feature/pom.xml
+++
b/examples/karaf-docker-example/karaf-docker-example-startup-feature/pom.xml
@@ -31,7 +31,7 @@

     <artifactId>karaf-docker-example-startup-app-feature</artifactId>

-    <packaging>feature</packaging>
+    <packaging>pom</packaging>

     <description>my.company.feature details</description>

@@ -68,6 +68,28 @@
                 <artifactId>maven-install-plugin</artifactId>
                 <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
             </plugin>
+            <plugin>
+                <groupId>org.codehaus.mojo</groupId>
+                <artifactId>build-helper-maven-plugin</artifactId>
+                <executions>
+                    <execution>
+                        <id>attach-artifacts</id>
+                        <phase>package</phase>
+                        <goals>
+                            <goal>attach-artifact</goal>
+                        </goals>
+                        <configuration>
+                            <artifacts>
+                                <artifact>
+
 <file>src/main/feature/feature.xml</file>
+                                    <classifier>features</classifier>
+                                    <type>xml</type>
+                                </artifact>
+                            </artifacts>
+                        </configuration>
+                    </execution>
+                </executions>
+            </plugin>
         </plugins>
     </build>

build-helper-maven-plugin is required to produce additional artifact and
make it available to Maven reactor (and have it installed in
~/.m2/repository)

Then I run the distro:

$ cd examples/karaf-docker-example/karaf-docker-example-dynamic-dist/
$ cd target/assembly/
$ bin/karaf

and installed `camel` feature:

karaf@root()> repo-add
mvn:org.apache.camel.karaf/apache-camel/3.22.2/xml/features
Adding feature url
mvn:org.apache.camel.karaf/apache-camel/3.22.2/xml/features
karaf@root()> feature:install -v camel
Adding features: camel/[3.22.2,3.22.2]
Changes to perform:
  Region: root
    Bundles to install:
      mvn:org.apache.aries.blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint.api/1.0.1
      mvn:org.apache.aries.blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint.cm/1.3.2
...

In logs I can see info like this:

19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT | Adding features:
camel/[3.22.2,3.22.2]
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT | Changes to perform:
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |   Region: root
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |     Bundles to
install:
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint.api/1.0.1
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint.cm/1.3.2
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint.core/1.10.3
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint.core.compatibility/1.0.0
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.jmx/org.apache.aries.jmx.blueprint.api/1.2.0
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.jmx/org.apache.aries.jmx.blueprint.core/1.2.0
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.proxy/org.apache.aries.proxy/1.1.14
...
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT | Installing bundles:
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint.api/1.0.1
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint.cm/1.3.2
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint.core/1.10.3
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.blueprint/org.apache.aries.blueprint.core.compatibility/1.0.0
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.jmx/org.apache.aries.jmx.blueprint.api/1.2.0
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.jmx/org.apache.aries.jmx.blueprint.core/1.2.0
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.aries.proxy/org.apache.aries.proxy/1.1.14
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
mvn:org.apache.camel/camel-api/3.22.2
...
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT | Starting bundles:
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |   stax2-api/4.2.1
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
woodstox-core-asl/4.4.1
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jaxb-runtime/2.3.1.1
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
org.apache.aries.blueprint.api/1.0.1
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT |
org.objectweb.asm/9.7.0
...
137 - org.apache.camel.karaf.camel-core-osgi - 3.22.2 | Camel activator
starting
137 - org.apache.camel.karaf.camel-core-osgi - 3.22.2 | Camel activator
started
...
52 - org.apache.karaf.shell.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT | Registering commands
for bundle org.apache.camel.karaf.camel-karaf-commands/3.22.2
52 - org.apache.karaf.shell.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT | Updating commands for
bundle org.apache.karaf.shell.commands/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT
19 - org.apache.karaf.features.core - 4.5.0.SNAPSHOT | Done.

If you see Pax Logging being refreshed, it means you (your feature)
installs additional bundle(s) which (calculation done by FeaturesService)
causes refresh of Pax Logging. I can't see it with the reproducer (your
feature is empty), but please look for logs like "Refreshing bundles" and
send it here.

kind regards
Grzegorz Grzybek

wt., 21 maj 2024 o 19:28 Matthias Leinweber <m.leinwe...@datatactics.de>
napisał(a):

> Hi Grzegorz
>
>
> https://github.com/lnnwvr/karaf/tree/startup-also-boot/examples/karaf-docker-example
>
> you can see the odd behaviour ,...
>
> featuresBoot = \
>     instance/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     package/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     scr/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     log/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     karaf-docker-example-app/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     karaf-docker-example-startup-app-feature/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \ #####
> startUpFeature
>     ssh/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     pax-web-http-whiteboard/8.0.27, \
>     framework/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \ #### Should not be here at all?
>     system/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     eventadmin/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \  #### startUpFeature
>     feature/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     shell/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     management/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     service/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     jaas/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     deployer/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     diagnostic/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     wrap/2.6.14, \
>     bundle/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     config/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT, \
>     kar/4.5.0.SNAPSHOT
>
> On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 18:25, Grzegorz Grzybek <gr.grzy...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> wt., 21 maj 2024 o 15:47 Matthias Leinweber <m.leinwe...@datatactics.de>
>> napisał(a):
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this is at least an explanation for the refresh. But the bootFeatures
>>> still seem bugg. Should i try to create a simple test with karaf examples?
>>>
>>
>> If you provide some github example, I could review it ;)
>>
>> regards
>> Grzegorz
>>
>>
>>>
>>> br,
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 15:31, Grzegorz Grzybek <gr.grzy...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The logs should contain an explanation.
>>>>
>>>> pax-logging-log4j2 (or your fragment) may contain some optional
>>>> (resolution:=optional) imports which are satisfied by some bundles from
>>>> Camel features... This makes Karaf's FeatureService include Pax Logging in
>>>> the set of "bundles to refresh".
>>>> The details should be in the logs.
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Grzegorz
>>>>
>>>> wt., 21 maj 2024 o 15:25 Matthias Leinweber <m.leinwe...@datatactics.de>
>>>> napisał(a):
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> >> compile scopeby default goes to "startup" phase of "profile
>>>>> management".
>>>>> Ah ok this is working now too..
>>>>>
>>>>> Then it is also added to the boot features.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, I'm not sure why's that... Even if it's true (I can't check
>>>>>> now), it shouldn't affect the process and cause extra refreshes.
>>>>>> In extreme case, where all the features are "startup", you should get
>>>>>> all the bundles installed (and active if not fragments) the moment 
>>>>>> Karaf's
>>>>>> FeatureService kicks in...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The thing is when i install e.g. feature camel, pax-logging gets
>>>>> restarted for idk why. If i remove  rahla.logging from
>>>>>
>>>>> featuresBoot = \
>>>>>     instance/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     package/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     log/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     rahla.logging/1.0.16.SNAPSHOT, \
>>>>>     ssh/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     pax-url-wrap/2.6.14, \
>>>>>     framework/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     system/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     feature/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     shell/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     management/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     service/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     jaas/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     shell-compat/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     deployer/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     diagnostic/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     bundle/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     config/4.4.6, \
>>>>>     kar/4.4.6
>>>>>
>>>>> then it does not get restarted when I install camel. This drives me
>>>>> crazy.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maven build says:
>>>>> [INFO]    Loading boot repositories
>>>>> ...
>>>>> [INFO]       adding feature repository:
>>>>> mvn:rahla.feature/rahla.logging/1.0.16-SNAPSHOT/xml/features
>>>>> ...
>>>>> [INFO]    Feature rahla.logging/1.0.16.SNAPSHOT is defined as a boot
>>>>> feature
>>>>> [INFO]       adding maven artifact:
>>>>> mvn:com.fasterxml.jackson.core/jackson-annotations/2.15.2
>>>>> [INFO]       adding maven artifact:
>>>>> mvn:rahla/loki-appender/1.0.16-SNAPSHOT
>>>>> [INFO]       adding maven artifact:
>>>>> mvn:com.fasterxml.jackson.core/jackson-databind/2.15.2
>>>>> [INFO]       adding maven artifact:
>>>>> mvn:org.ops4j.pax.logging/pax-logging-log4j2-extra/2.2.7
>>>>> [INFO]       adding maven artifact:
>>>>> mvn:com.fasterxml.jackson.core/jackson-core/2.15.2
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Boot and installed looks like:
>>>>>
>>>>> /home/mleinweber/projects/rahla/assembly/pom.xml
>>>>>
>>>>> All dependency features are scope runtime except rahla.logging which
>>>>> is compile
>>>>> <bootFeatures>
>>>>>             <feature>pax-url-wrap</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>shell</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>shell-compat</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>feature</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>jaas</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>ssh</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>management</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>bundle</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>config</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>deployer</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>diagnostic</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>feature</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>instance</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>kar</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>log</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>package</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>service</feature>
>>>>>             <feature>system</feature>
>>>>>           </bootFeatures>
>>>>>           <installedFeatures>
>>>>>             <feature>fradi</feature>
>>>>>           </installedFeatures>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Startup works fine
>>>>> mvn\:org.apache.karaf.features/org.apache.karaf.features.extension/4.4.6
>>>>> = 1
>>>>> mvn\:org.ops4j.pax.url/pax-url-aether/2.6.14 = 5
>>>>> mvn\:org.ops4j.pax.logging/pax-logging-api/2.2.7 = 8
>>>>> mvn\:com.fasterxml.jackson.core/jackson-annotations/2.15.2 = 8
>>>>> mvn\:org.ops4j.pax.logging/pax-logging-log4j2/2.2.7 = 8
>>>>> mvn\:org.ops4j.pax.logging/pax-logging-log4j2-extra/2.2.7 = 8
>>>>> mvn\:rahla/loki-appender/1.0.16-SNAPSHOT = 8
>>>>> mvn\:com.fasterxml.jackson.core/jackson-core/2.15.2 = 8
>>>>>
>>>>> I  debugged a bit during build process:
>>>>>
>>>>> Profile bootOverlay = Profiles.getOverlay(bootProfile, allProfiles,
>>>>> environment);
>>>>> adds the startup features (my library + "framework") before
>>>>> Profile bootEffective = Profiles.getEffective(bootOverlay, false); ..
>>>>> and bootEffective.getFeatures() is used
>>>>>
>>>>> br,
>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 13:29, Grzegorz Grzybek <gr.grzy...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> compile scopeby default goes to "startup" phase of "profile
>>>>>> management". See some comments I've added to Fuse Karaf with
>>>>>> karaf-maven-plugin:
>>>>>> https://github.com/jboss-fuse/fuse-karaf/blob/7.x.redhat-7-x/assemblies/fuse-karaf/pom.xml#L208-L225
>>>>>> (it's a public repo).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So in practice there's no such thing as "startup feature" - simply
>>>>>> the bundles from such feature go to etc/startup.properties, preserving
>>>>>> start-level attribute of a <bundle> within such <feature>. This should be
>>>>>> the way you add a fragment bundle for Pax Logging - as early as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then it is also added to the boot features.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmm, I'm not sure why's that... Even if it's true (I can't check
>>>>>> now), it shouldn't affect the process and cause extra refreshes.
>>>>>> In extreme case, where all the features are "startup", you should get
>>>>>> all the bundles installed (and active if not fragments) the moment 
>>>>>> Karaf's
>>>>>> FeatureService kicks in...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>> Grzegorz Grzybek
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wt., 21 maj 2024 o 13:15 Matthias Leinweber <
>>>>>> m.leinwe...@datatactics.de> napisał(a):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Grzegorz,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> now connecting the dots which jboss fuse and your expert knowledge ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway I shaded the additional library and didn't add the import.
>>>>>>> Anyway, a new problem when I add a feature with scope compile to the
>>>>>>> startupFeature config. Then it is also added to the boot features. This
>>>>>>> causes a restart of pax-logging-log4j2 which causes some trouble with 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> appender code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I currently try to see if something like:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           <startupBundles>
>>>>>>>             <bundle
>>>>>>> start-level="8">mvn:org.ops4j.pax.logging/pax-logging-log4j2-extra/${pax-logging.version}</bundle>
>>>>>>> <!--mor bundles-->
>>>>>>>           </startupBundles>
>>>>>>> is possible and get rid of the extra feature. But it seems that
>>>>>>> start-level is always 30.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2024 at 11:41, Grzegorz Grzybek <gr.grzy...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> `org.osgi.framework.system.packages.extra` can be changed in
>>>>>>>> karaf-maven-plugin when building custom Karaf distro. You can also 
>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>> your own config.properties - that's what we do in Fuse Karaf.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I think the easiest solution for you is to exclude generation
>>>>>>>> of such import clause by adding `!sun.nio.ch` if you're not really
>>>>>>>> using it in your fragment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>> Grzegorz Grzybek
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wt., 21 maj 2024 o 10:58 Matthias Leinweber <
>>>>>>>> m.leinwe...@datatactics.de> napisał(a):
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I figured out that i added my logging stuff too late.: As a bundle
>>>>>>>>> dependency in the assembly with a startup level which is too high (30)
>>>>>>>>> which results in a restart of the logging system. Anyway after 
>>>>>>>>> creating an
>>>>>>>>> additional feature with start level 8 and adding it to 
>>>>>>>>> startupFeatures i am
>>>>>>>>> pretty close to a solution.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But i get
>>>>>>>>> [ERROR] Failed to execute goal
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.karaf.tooling:karaf-maven-plugin:4.4.6:assembly
>>>>>>>>> (default-assembly) on project rahla: Unable to build assembly: Unable 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> resolve root: missing requirement [root] osgi.identity;
>>>>>>>>> osgi.identity=rahla.logging; type=karaf.feature; 
>>>>>>>>> version=1.0.16.SNAPSHOT;
>>>>>>>>> filter:="(&(osgi.identity=rahla.logging)(type=karaf.feature)(version>=1.0.16.SNAPSHOT))"
>>>>>>>>> [caused by: Unable to resolve rahla.logging/1.0.16.SNAPSHOT: missing
>>>>>>>>> requirement [rahla.logging/1.0.16.SNAPSHOT] osgi.identity;
>>>>>>>>> osgi.identity=org.agrona.core; type=osgi.bundle; 
>>>>>>>>> version="[1.12.0,1.12.0]";
>>>>>>>>> resolution:=mandatory [caused by: Unable to resolve 
>>>>>>>>> org.agrona.core/1.12.0:
>>>>>>>>> missing requirement [org.agrona.core/1.12.0] osgi.wiring.package;
>>>>>>>>> filter:="(osgi.wiring.package=sun.nio.ch)"]]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am currently digging through the source code to see if I can
>>>>>>>>> change org.osgi.framework.system.packages.extra during execution of 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> plugin? Or does anyone know a better solution?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> br,
>>>>>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2024 at 10:33, Matthias Leinweber <
>>>>>>>>> m.leinwe...@datatactics.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for the support. Worked like a charm.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Grzegorz Grzybek <gr.grzy...@gmail.com> schrieb am Sa., 18. Mai
>>>>>>>>>> 2024, 08:47:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You should not get this file from original jar - it has to be
>>>>>>>>>>> generated using Maven configuration of two Maven plugins:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    - maven-compiler-plugin to configure
>>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.core.config.plugins.processor.PluginProcessor
>>>>>>>>>>>    - maven-bundle-plugin to ensure resource mapping:
>>>>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>>>>> META-INF/org/apache/logging/log4j/core/config/plugins/Log4j2Plugins.dat=target/classes/META-INF/org/apache/logging/log4j/core/config/plugins/Log4j2Plugins.dat
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> See:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/ops4j/org.ops4j.pax.logging/blob/main/pax-logging-samples/fragment-log4j2/pom.xml#L41-L77
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>>>>> Grzegorz Grzybek
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> pt., 17 maj 2024 o 19:28 Matthias Leinweber <
>>>>>>>>>>> m.leinwe...@datatactics.de> napisał(a):
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, it doesn't seem so complicated.. Anyway, my java skills are
>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit outdated. Working with private-package looks good in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> first place.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But how do I get the Log4j2Plugins.dat out of the original jar 
>>>>>>>>>>>> into my
>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 at 16:55, Grzegorz Grzybek <
>>>>>>>>>>>> gr.grzy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find a sample fragment here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/ops4j/org.ops4j.pax.logging/tree/main/pax-logging-samples/fragment-log4j2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's all there is ;(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grzegorz Grzybek
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pt., 17 maj 2024 o 16:26 Matthias Leinweber <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> m.leinwe...@datatactics.de> napisał(a):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Karaf Team,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is it possible to directly add a custom log4j2 appender via
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrap protocol?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added log4j2.packages = pl.tkowalcz.tjahzi.log4j2 to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.ops4j.pax.logging.cfg but i get ERROR : Unable to locate 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin for Loki
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I fear that i have to build a fragment bundle for pax logging
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. if yes where can i find some doc?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> br.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matthias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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