Am 19.09.2006 um 15:33 schrieb Doug Chestnut:



Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote:

Andreas Hartmann wrote:

Andreas Hartmann wrote:

[...]

- We could treat the site structure as a separate entity and apply
  a workflow to it. This means that moving a document would be
  an editing operation on the site structure, and you could
  publish the site structure again. You could imagine the site
  structure as a document which contains references to other
  documents. Side note: Maybe it would be even appropriate to
  implement it like this (this SimpleSiteManager is already
  implemented this way).


There's problem with this approach:

If you move the documents A to A' and B to B', you can't publish
the change to A without publishing the change to B.


this is a non-issue imho. we can assume that the site admin thinks before s/he types.


If you have a big site, and Alice moves A to A' (without publishing,
because her boss is on vacation), Bob couldn't move B to B' and
publish this without reverting Alice's changes ...
sitetree changes are admin tasks imnsho. it does not make sense to allow editors to change the sitetree when they can't publish that change.
imnsho we don't need to yet another step to the publish workflow (create doc -> edit in editor -> submit doc -> submit sitetree -> publish doc -> publish sitetree). This type of sitetree (publish sitetree independent from documents) could be accomplished as a custom doctype if desired.

Not really an answer to the currently discussed points but I think it somehow belongs to this topic: In todays revision (19. Sept 06) «visible in navigation» and the navigation title of live-documents can be changed (without deactivating them). This also results in a change in the sitetree which is only reflected in live mode after deactivating-submitting-publishing of the document.

Jürgen


--Doug


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