i totally agree with your experience. whilst i am responsible for releasing and software quality i immediately saw maven benefits and after the migration i know that it was the correct choice. not only the explicit dependency management, the reports and reproducable command-line focused build made life much easier. further continous integration became like wink instead of fighting with custom ant-scripts.

the critical thing (which i quite underestimated in the first place) was, that the m2eclipse around august was quite tricky to use, when you did not know the edges and twists. the development team not only needed to think differently (dependencies, heart pom.xml, repository etc.) they too were frustrated by the plugin and said maven2 was crap, though it wasn't mavens fault. though at this place i really want to appreciate the work of eugene!!! the plugin works fine when knowing some workarounds or getting used to it.

i too think that work effort should be focused on one good product, instead of doing the work twice. this way plugin could be better quality, richer in features and releases would speed up.

ossi petz schrieb:
indeed.

after moving our builds from ant to maven (which was a real improvement) i have to say that eclipse integration lacks a certain comfort.

i tried q4e but m2eclipse works much better for me. if someone starts a comparison chart in a wiki or so i am glad to help filling the rows :)

the comparison with subversive / sublcipse is frequently used and quite good. but i am not satisfied with the situation there. both plugins are incomplete but in different areas. it is like doing thw work twice with no better solution coming out. so i dont understand why there is q4e at all.

having the same situation with m2eclipse and q4e cant be too good. from my 20 developers i have 2 that actually do releases with maven. the rest sees maven as some eclipse plugin which fails on hot-code-replacement. (different story). ide integration is a critical feature. having to choose on or another plugin does not improve that situation.

but well. lets see :-)
glad m2eclipse will live! thanks a lot!




Donnie McNeal schrieb:
IMO it seems that q4e and m2eclipse has finally lit a fire in the eclipse community to bring quality maven support to the IDE. So, hooray for both!



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