Hello Matt,

please do not misunderstand me posts.

I said that most of the issues are due to my low knowledge of this tool.

On the other hand, for a new user that does not have HDP installed, it's quite 
laborious the installation. For that reason, I'm asking for a work around such 
as a Centos VM - demo that I can simply run.

I know that Metron is a quite new tool so developers do not want to waste their 
time on that. But it would expand the number of new usres.

At the end of the day, I started to read about this tool because I would 
perform some tests with ML algorithms but I'm still at the installation point.

Best Regards,
Simone

> Il 13 giugno 2017 alle 2.20 Matt Foley <[email protected]> ha scritto:
> 
> 
>     This is funny/sad, because our Vagrant scripts, that you assert you 
> cannot use, were intended to meet this need.  You can’t get much simpler than 
> “vagrant up” to install a full-blown single-node Metron.
> 
>      
> 
>     From: Otto Fowler <[email protected]>
>     Date: Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:24 PM
>     To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Matt Foley <[email protected]>, 
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>     Subject: Re: Metron current version and Docker
> 
>      
> 
>     I do not know of any outside of our vagrant scripts, that use ansible to 
> deploy Metron onto a centos virtual box vm.
> 
>      
> 
>      
> 
>     On June 12, 2017 at 08:12:44, [email protected] mailto:[email protected] 
> ([email protected] mailto:[email protected] ) wrote:
> 
>         > > 
> >         Hello Otto,
> > 
> >         is there any VM Centos 6 with Metron installed that I can use for 
> > my tests with ML?
> > 
> >         Thanks.
> > 
> >         Simone
> > 
> >             > > > 
> > >             Il 12 giugno 2017 alle 14.05 Otto Fowler 
> > > <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] > ha scritto:
> > > 
> > >             We use centos 6 for our images and most deployments.  There 
> > > are guides in the works for centos 7 manual setup with ambari in the 
> > > works right now.  Centos 7 is not supported by the full ansible setup at 
> > > this time.
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             On June 12, 2017 at 06:08:40, [email protected] 
> > > mailto:[email protected] ([email protected] mailto:[email protected] ) wrote:
> > > 
> > >                 > > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                 Hello,
> > > > 
> > > >                 I tried to install Metron 0.3.1 following  the 
> > > > guideline: 
> > > > 
> > > >                 
> > > > https://community.hortonworks.com/content/kbentry/88843/manually-installing-apache-metron-on-ubuntu-1404.html
> > > > 
> > > >                 but I got some errors.
> > > > 
> > > >                 One question about where I could find HDP 2.5.0 
> > > > installation guideline for Ubuntu.
> > > > 
> > > >                 Finally, if you as community and developers of Metron 
> > > > use CentOS 7, maybe it would be better if I adapt myself to that 
> > > > distribution.
> > > > 
> > > >                 So, is there any ContOS 7 VM ready that I could 
> > > > download to test Metron 0.3.1 and the MaaS option?
> > > > 
> > > >                 Maybe it would be faster than debug the installation in 
> > > > Ubuntu.
> > > > 
> > > >                 Thank you.
> > > > 
> > > >                 Best Regards,
> > > >                 Simone
> > > > 
> > > >                  
> > > > 
> > > >                     > > > > > 
> > > > >                     Il 9 giugno 2017 alle 2.09 Otto Fowler 
> > > > > <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] > ha scritto:
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     Sorry, I do not know, we use centos.
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                      
> > > > > 
> > > > >                     On June 8, 2017 at 18:12:50, [email protected] 
> > > > > mailto:[email protected] ([email protected] mailto:[email protected] ) 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >                         > > > > > > 
> > > > > >                          
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Hello Otto,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         thanks for the link.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Do you know if it does work also with 
> > > > > > Ubuntu 16.04?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Just for curiosity, the post is quite 
> > > > > > recent but I do not understand the reason to use a distribution 
> > > > > > quite old.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Finally, I read in that guide that they do 
> > > > > > not use NIFI as source to record network packet.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Is there any guide to use NIFI with Metron?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Best Regards,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                         Simone
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >                             > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             Il 8 giugno 2017 alle 22.25 Otto 
> > > > > > > Fowler <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] > 
> > > > > > > ha scritto:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             
> > > > > > > https://community.hortonworks.com/content/kbentry/88843/manually-installing-apache-metron-on-ubuntu-1404.html
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                              
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                             On June 8, 2017 at 15:46:09, 
> > > > > > > [email protected] mailto:[email protected] ([email protected] 
> > > > > > > mailto:[email protected] ) wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                                 > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Hello Matt,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 thanks for your email.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Yes, I said that I would use an 
> > > > > > > > Ubuntu VM to install Metron. I'm old school and I'm not so 
> > > > > > > > familiar with Docker.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Moreover, it seems that my CPU 
> > > > > > > > (MacBook) does not support virtualization.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 On the other hand, I don't know 
> > > > > > > > if a VM with CentOS 7 on my machine could run Docker. I mean 
> > > > > > > > due to the same problem of virtualization on the host CPU.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Let assume that VM CentOS 7 
> > > > > > > > support Docker, I'm not familiar with that distribution (I used 
> > > > > > > > several but never CentOS). Do you have rpm packages for the 
> > > > > > > > tools needed for Metron?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 I would use the 0.4.0 version, 
> > > > > > > > but after several day I'm a bit frustrated because I stil 
> > > > > > > > didn't completely understand the tools chain to run Metron.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 I asked also into the 
> > > > > > > > dev-mailing list.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 My idea was to install NIFI as 
> > > > > > > > probe to catch network packets and fill in those into Metron.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Then, I still didn't understand 
> > > > > > > > where I should deploy ML model into Metron to run it as a 
> > > > > > > > service.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 And finally, how to moidfy the 
> > > > > > > > ML to include it into a RESTful app.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 I'm sorry for the long list of 
> > > > > > > > questions/issues. I knwo that it is not so elegant into a 
> > > > > > > > mailing list but I'm a step from give up Metron. Even if I know 
> > > > > > > > that it would be a mistake.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Thanks again if you could give 
> > > > > > > > some indications.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                 Simone
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >                                     > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Il 8 giugno 2017 alle 
> > > > > > > > > 20.40 Matt Foley <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] > 
> > > > > > > > > ha scritto:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Hi Simone,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     If I recall your previous 
> > > > > > > > > email, you said you want to use an Ubuntu VM.  Can you use 
> > > > > > > > > Centos 6 or 7 instead?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     The reason I ask is that 
> > > > > > > > > for Centos there is an “Ambari manual install” procedure, 
> > > > > > > > > which does not require Docker, Vagrant, or Ansible on the 
> > > > > > > > > server.  In this scenario you just install Docker on your 
> > > > > > > > > development machine (I use a Mac), build the Metron RPMs and 
> > > > > > > > > Ambari MPack there, scp them to the server, and proceed with 
> > > > > > > > > Ambari install.  This is in fact my main lab test method.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     But with Ubuntu, I’m not 
> > > > > > > > > aware of a documented procedure for Ambari manual install, 
> > > > > > > > > only install with Ansible playbooks combined with a 
> > > > > > > > > Docker-based build.  You’d have to figure out for yourself 
> > > > > > > > > how to generate an ‘apt’ package, etc., instead.  Perhaps 
> > > > > > > > > other community members with more Ubuntu experience could 
> > > > > > > > > assist here.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Regarding 0.4.0 vs 0.3.1: 
> > > > > > > > >  At this point, 0.3.1 is several months old, from Feb 23.  
> > > > > > > > > There have been about 140 commits since then, including both 
> > > > > > > > > bug fixes and feature developments.  However, I don’t think 
> > > > > > > > > there have been major changes in the MaaS feature.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     --Matt
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     From: "[email protected] 
> > > > > > > > > mailto:[email protected] " <[email protected] 
> > > > > > > > > mailto:[email protected] >
> > > > > > > > >                                     Reply-To: 
> > > > > > > > > "[email protected] mailto:[email protected] " 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] >
> > > > > > > > >                                     Date: Thursday, June 8, 
> > > > > > > > > 2017 at 3:19 AM
> > > > > > > > >                                     To: 
> > > > > > > > > "[email protected] mailto:[email protected] " 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected] mailto:[email protected] >
> > > > > > > > >                                     Subject: Metron current 
> > > > > > > > > version and Docker
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                      
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Dear All,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     I'm newbe with Metron and 
> > > > > > > > > actually I'm just figure out how to install it to perform 
> > > > > > > > > some tests.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Currently, I would start 
> > > > > > > > > installing Metron in a single VM to do my tests.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     I don't know which are 
> > > > > > > > > the differences between 0.3.1 and 0.4.0.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Unfortunately for me, my 
> > > > > > > > > CPU does not support virtualization. That means
> > > > > > > > >                                     that I cannot use Docker.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     The only workaround that 
> > > > > > > > > I found is to use AWS directly but for me that I
> > > > > > > > >                                     have never used Mentor it 
> > > > > > > > > could be a so big step...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     So the question is, do I 
> > > > > > > > > lose many things if I start with Mentor 0.3.1
> > > > > > > > >                                     into a single VM without 
> > > > > > > > > Docker?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Best regards,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                                     Simone
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