There are actually many different ways to get this working for you, and I
would be happy to help.  I think if you are able to chat more synchronously
with me we could get this working fairly quickly.  Per Otto's suggestion,
are you able to use the Freenode web client?  It is available here -
http://webchat.freenode.net

If not, I can chat via slack, Gchat, etc.  Let's take this conversation off
list briefly and then we can circle back as to not create too much noise
for others.

Jon

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017, 10:10 AM Otto Fowler <[email protected]> wrote:

> Freenode has a web client….
>
>
> On June 13, 2017 at 10:02:03, [email protected] ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> Hello Jon,
>
> yes I know that my machine is quite old...
>
> No, unfortunately I can't join IRC due to network configuration.
>
> By the way, may I ask your opinion. Actually, I have two choices:
>
> 1. single node VM Centos 6 with Metron 0.4.1?
>
> 2. Use AWS to run Metron. But here it would be a mess set for example NiFi
> to save network packets from my network and then ingest Metron with them.
>
> I really would use this tool but I don't know how...
>
> Thanks.
>
> Simone
>
>
> Il 13 giugno 2017 alle 15.50 "[email protected]" <[email protected]> ha
> scritto:
>
> Right, but you need virtualization enabled on your host (OS X) in able to
> run a VM on it (Metron).  Once you have that enabled, you are able to run
> quick-dev using Vagrant which will spin up a VM that runs Metron.  It looks
> like your machine doesn't have enough horsepower to run full-dev (simply
> based on RAM).
>
> Can you join IRC via #apache-metron on freenode?  That will make this
> conversation easier and then we can report back to the mailing list.
>
> Jon
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:48 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello Jon,
>
> I would install Metron not directly on OSX but instead in a VM.
>
> By the way, here you are the information:
>
> *Hardware Overview:*
>
>   Model Name:    MacBook Pro
>   Model Identifier:    MacBookPro5,3
>   Processor Name:    Intel Core 2 Duo
>   Processor Speed:    2,66 GHz
>   Number of Processors:    1
>   Total Number of Cores:    2
>   L2 Cache:    3 MB
>   Memory:    8 GB
>   Bus Speed:    1,07 GHz
>   Boot ROM Version:    MBP53.00AC.B03
>   SMC Version (system):    1.48f2
>
> What do you need exactly to knwo?
>
> Best Regards,
> Simone
>
>
> Il 13 giugno 2017 alle 14.11 "[email protected]" <[email protected]> ha
> scritto:
>
> Can you provide more specifics regarding your system?  What exactly is the
> machine?  Just the information on the first page of this
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203001> would be necessary to start.
>
> Jon
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 8:02 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Is there any workaround to avoid EFI update?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Simone
>
> Il 13 giugno 2017 alle 13.58 "[email protected]" <[email protected]> ha
> scritto:
>
> Actually, based on the output of that command, it is showing that your
> endpoint does support virtualization.  It is the "VMX" feature - can you
> try to follow the below steps to enable it, assuming it's disabled?
>
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203296
>
> Jon
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017, 6:40 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello Jon,
>
> here you are the output on my MacBook
>
> *sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu.features*
>
>
> machdep.cpu.features: FPU VME DE PSE TSC MSR PAE MCE CX8 APIC SEP MTRR PGE
> MCA CMOV PAT PSE36 CLFSH DS ACPI MMX FXSR SSE SSE2 SS HTT TM PBE SSE3
> DTES64 MON DSCPL VMX SMX EST TM2 SSSE3 CX16 TPR PDCM SSE4.1 XSAVE
>
> I add as I wrote in my previous posts that unfortunately my machine does
> not support virtualization.
>
> I don't know if Metron single node on a VM Centos 6 can run without
> virtualization, otherwise I see only AWS as solution to start using Metron.
>
> Any suggestion?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Simone
>
> Il 13 giugno 2017 alle 12.20 "[email protected]" <[email protected]> ha
> scritto:
>
> Hi Simone,
>
> Can you provide the output of this command on your computer?
>
> sysctl -a | grep machdep.cpu.features
>
> There is also an IRC channel, #apache-metron on Freenode if you'd like to
> discuss this more synchronously.  I'm usually there between 9-5, UTC -4.
>
> Jon
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017, 12:59 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello Matt,
>
> please do not misunderstand me posts.
>
> I said that most of the issues are due to my low knowledge of this tool.
>
> On the other hand, for a new user that does not have HDP installed, it's
> quite laborious the installation. For that reason, I'm asking for a work
> around such as a Centos VM - demo that I can simply run.
>
> I know that Metron is a quite new tool so developers do not want to waste
> their time on that. But it would expand the number of new usres.
>
> At the end of the day, I started to read about this tool because I would
> perform some tests with ML algorithms but I'm still at the installation
> point.
>
> Best Regards,
> Simone
>
> Il 13 giugno 2017 alle 2.20 Matt Foley <[email protected]> ha
> scritto:
>
> This is funny/sad, because our Vagrant scripts, that you assert you cannot
> use, were intended to meet this need.  You can’t get much simpler than
> “vagrant up” to install a full-blown single-node Metron.
>
>
>
> *From:* Otto Fowler <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:24 PM
> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Matt Foley <[email protected]>,
> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: Metron current version and Docker
>
>
>
> I do not know of any outside of our vagrant scripts, that use ansible to
> deploy Metron onto a centos virtual box vm.
>
>
>
>
>
> On June 12, 2017 at 08:12:44, [email protected] ([email protected]) wrote:
>
> Hello Otto,
>
> is there any VM Centos 6 with Metron installed that I can use for my tests
> with ML?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Simone
>
> Il 12 giugno 2017 alle 14.05 Otto Fowler <[email protected]> ha
> scritto:
>
> We use centos 6 for our images and most deployments.  There are guides in
> the works for centos 7 manual setup with ambari in the works right now.
> Centos 7 is not supported by the full ansible setup at this time.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On June 12, 2017 at 06:08:40, [email protected] ([email protected]) wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I tried to install Metron 0.3.1 following  the guideline:
>
>
> https://community.hortonworks.com/content/kbentry/88843/manually-installing-apache-metron-on-ubuntu-1404.html
>
> but I got some errors.
>
> One question about where I could find HDP 2.5.0 installation guideline for
> Ubuntu.
>
> Finally, if you as community and developers of Metron use CentOS 7, maybe
> it would be better if I adapt myself to that distribution.
>
> So, is there any ContOS 7 VM ready that I could download to test Metron
> 0.3.1 and the MaaS option?
>
> Maybe it would be faster than debug the installation in Ubuntu.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best Regards,
> Simone
>
>
>
> Il 9 giugno 2017 alle 2.09 Otto Fowler <[email protected]> ha
> scritto:
>
> Sorry, I do not know, we use centos.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On June 8, 2017 at 18:12:50, [email protected] ([email protected]) wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Otto,
>
> thanks for the link.
>
> Do you know if it does work also with Ubuntu 16.04?
>
> Just for curiosity, the post is quite recent but I do not understand the
> reason to use a distribution quite old.
>
> Finally, I read in that guide that they do not use NIFI as source to
> record network packet.
>
> Is there any guide to use NIFI with Metron?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Simone
>
> Il 8 giugno 2017 alle 22.25 Otto Fowler <[email protected]> ha
> scritto:
>
>
> https://community.hortonworks.com/content/kbentry/88843/manually-installing-apache-metron-on-ubuntu-1404.html
>
>
>
> On June 8, 2017 at 15:46:09, [email protected] ([email protected]) wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello Matt,
>
> thanks for your email.
>
> Yes, I said that I would use an Ubuntu VM to install Metron. I'm old
> school and I'm not so familiar with Docker.
>
> Moreover, it seems that my CPU (MacBook) does not support virtualization.
>
> On the other hand, I don't know if a VM with CentOS 7 on my machine could
> run Docker. I mean due to the same problem of virtualization on the host
> CPU.
>
> Let assume that VM CentOS 7 support Docker, I'm not familiar with that
> distribution (I used several but never CentOS). Do you have rpm packages
> for the tools needed for Metron?
>
> I would use the 0.4.0 version, but after several day I'm a bit frustrated
> because I stil didn't completely understand the tools chain to run Metron.
>
> I asked also into the dev-mailing list.
>
> My idea was to install NIFI as probe to catch network packets and fill in
> those into Metron.
>
> Then, I still didn't understand where I should deploy ML model into Metron
> to run it as a service.
>
> And finally, how to moidfy the ML to include it into a RESTful app.
>
> I'm sorry for the long list of questions/issues. I knwo that it is not so
> elegant into a mailing list but I'm a step from give up Metron. Even if I
> know that it would be a mistake.
>
> Thanks again if you could give some indications.
>
> Simone
>
>
>
>
>
> Il 8 giugno 2017 alle 20.40 Matt Foley <[email protected]> ha scritto:
>
> Hi Simone,
>
> If I recall your previous email, you said you want to use an Ubuntu VM.
> Can you use Centos 6 or 7 instead?
>
>
>
> The reason I ask is that for Centos there is an “Ambari manual install”
> procedure, which does not require Docker, Vagrant, or Ansible on the
> server.  In this scenario you just install Docker on your development
> machine (I use a Mac), build the Metron RPMs and Ambari MPack there, scp
> them to the server, and proceed with Ambari install.  This is in fact my
> main lab test method.
>
>
>
> But with Ubuntu, I’m not aware of a documented procedure for Ambari manual
> install, only install with Ansible playbooks combined with a Docker-based
> build.  You’d have to figure out for yourself how to generate an ‘apt’
> package, etc., instead.  Perhaps other community members with more Ubuntu
> experience could assist here.
>
>
>
> Regarding 0.4.0 vs 0.3.1:  At this point, 0.3.1 is several months old,
> from Feb 23.  There have been about 140 commits since then, including both
> bug fixes and feature developments.  However, I don’t think there have been
> major changes in the MaaS feature.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> --Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Reply-To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Date:* Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 3:19 AM
> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Metron current version and Docker
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> I'm newbe with Metron and actually I'm just figure out how to install it
> to perform some tests.
>
> Currently, I would start installing Metron in a single VM to do my tests.
>
> I don't know which are the differences between 0.3.1 and 0.4.0.
>
> Unfortunately for me, my CPU does not support virtualization. That means
> that I cannot use Docker.
>
> The only workaround that I found is to use AWS directly but for me that I
> have never used Mentor it could be a so big step...
>
> So the question is, do I lose many things if I start with Mentor 0.3.1
> into a single VM without Docker?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Simone
>
> --
>
> Jon
>
> --
>
> Jon
>
> --
>
> Jon
>
> --
>
> Jon
>
> --

Jon

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