This was very helpful, thank you for your reply!

Tom

Quoting Alexander Schuster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi,
> 
> I will try and see where I can help...
> 
> > I have created a new company with the system administrator, and created a
> new
> > admin for that company. 
> > I logged in with the company admin to the company site in aegir, and
> created a
> > group called "designers" with access to approve, websites, styles, and
> > changelog.
> 
> First, please check if those rights are set correctly in aegir - Aegir
> has a AFAIK a bug with setting group permissions when creating a group.
> Re-editing those rights works without problem.
> 
> > I created a user as a member of that group.
> > I logged out and logged in as the newly created user to the company site.
> > I tried to edit the website, but got permission denied. (WHY?)
> 
> Looks like Aegir is a bit inconsistent here.
> These are my findings on rights for a PAGE:
> - as SG-Admin i created a page named "testpage" and set the author to
> the person "testperson" who is member of group "testgroup" with
> permissions to view and approve pages
> - person "testperson" gets to see "his" page "testpage" without the (ro)
> behind it and can even edit that page, but when pressing "submit" gets a
>  "permission denied"
> - "testperson" can approve/disapprove his page as expected
> - "testperson" can NOT approve/disapprove pages owned by others
> 
> conclusion: only members of the admin group seem to be able to create
> and edit new pages, other members can be given the right to
> approve/disapprove a page by setting the author-field the that person.
> 
> (This seems to be a design flaw, since other elements (styles, topics)
> are controlled by settting the owner to a group, not a person...)
> 
> > 
> > I created a new style.
> > I pointed the website at the new style.
> > I clicked the style, and clicked "new" in the right pane.
> > I have only one box that says "New chile style" (chile misspelled, should
> be
> > child?).
> 
> Yep, small typo here.
> 
> > PROBLEM: Where is my ability to create new style elements?
> 
> another aegir-"feature" I never understood.
> You have to make your person a power-user (edit person/Details, check
> the PowerUser-field) to enable style- and pageelements.
> (this also turns on the features to edit parameters and set scores (i.e.
> "sort" articles and topics))
> 
> > I'm slightly confused as to how permissions are assigned in this program,
> and am
> > unsure how to set things up properly without confusing my co-workers when
> I
> > assign them userid's to access various parts of this site. Why can I create
> a
> > whole new style, but no style elements? It doesn't make sense to me...
> 
> You are right, but unfortunately Aegir 1.x is not getting developed any
> further...
> Luckily most of those "bugs" (there is a bunch more, most of them
> smaller ones) don't affect the workflow too much.
> I have made good experiences with leaving the rights for pages to the
> admin group and making most of the settings and changes in styles and
> style-elements which are easier to "user-control".
> Most of our customers just want to see and edit their topics and
> articles anyway...
> 
> > Thanks to whomever can explain this confusing user permissions problem to
> me.
> > I'm using aegir 1.0.3 on top of midgard 1.7.0
> 
> Hope I could help a bit,
> I would really like to see Aegir 1.x developed further, but
> unfortunately i don't have enough time and experience to take on the
> job. If anyone volunteers though I would be more than happy to provide a
> few fixes and patches i have made.
> (for example for changing the behavior of index-articles being created
> UPPERCASE, for setting descriptions to the extraN fields, and 2
> alpha-state AddOns for Aegir providing a forum and a photogallery
> - If anyone is interested, just drop me a note)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Alex
> 
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