David,

I can see where you're coming from on this. This project is better documented than anything else I've seen in the field.You yourself have produced a truly awesome amount of documentation. I don't know where you find the time. All are extremely well written, very clear, very well laid out. A model of their kind. (No I'm not sucking up - I mean it :) So what could possibly be the problem.

I found the Introduction Videos and Diagrams page you link to here a couple of days ago myself.

It was whilst working through these videos that the light bulb went off.

What you're talking us through is a diagram of the wiring harness of a jumbo jet.

Essential for the engineers who need to service it.

Absolutely the last kind of map a pilot wants to find on his lap.

Know what I mean?

Ian




David E. Jones wrote:

On Jan 18, 2007, at 4:38 AM, Jonathon -- Improov wrote:

Er, Ian. I forgot to mention this.

The docs for engineers aren't too comprehensive either. Try putting your best Java developers into picking up OFBiz. Take the screen widgets and form widgets for example. See how they fare. Like I said, Java is more documented than OFBiz-specific technologies.

BUT.. but it's entirely possible to use Java only, plus non-OFBiz-specific technologies like Freemarker for front-end development convenience, and to skip Minilang and screen/form widgets to a large extent. Non-OFBiz-specific technologies are generally better documented since their developers focus develoment time solely on those techs, like Freemarker (front-end tool) developers don't delve into entity engines (backend tools).

As I was telling my boss, it's actually easier to hire Java programmers than to hire Minilang or screen/form widget programmers.

So, beware of the implications. Say I code customizations for you in Minilang and screen/form widgets, using almost or entirely zero Java. Future tech support could be an really hairy issue for you.

BUT... at some point (I can't guarantee when), Minilang and screen/form widget docs will be complete, audited to be comprehensive, etc. You'll then probably find that programming in Minilang is more cost-effective than in Java. (Either that, or I get paid by someone to completely reverse-engineer and document all of Minilang and screen/form widget in a reasonable timeframe --- say a month. Not an impossible task, just a mountain of Java codes, is all).

Complete coverage of the framework already exists. Start at the link below, and continue on to the advanced framework materials:

http://docs.ofbiz.org/x/PQM

-David


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