BJ No, I have considered only my own needs. However, a property which determines the behavior satisfies both camps.
Skip -----Original Message----- From: BJ Freeman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 1:27 PM To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: shipments made for out of stock items Skip have you consider the sequence for a dropshipper, and some fulfillment houses. you don't have their inventory. Skip sent the following on 10/24/2007 1:09 PM: > Dave > > I agree that this is a big hole/bug. On the other hand, there are folks who > don't mind/prefer the sloppiness (I have a customer just like that). So, > perhaps we could use a property to define the behavior, like: > > ilikesloppybookkeeping=true/false (tongue in cheek) > > However, I would be happy to collaborate to get this done. I want > requirements and automatic backorders issued for out of stock etc for quick > ship. I was just about to start work on this. We could modify the existing > service to look for a property and if it exists, do the better bookkeeping / > automatic ordering. > > This is a hole for me because if my customer has a customer at the counter > and is selling him some stuff and part of it is on back order, he has to > exit out of the sales order screen and go to the shipping screen to get it > all done right. It's a pain and will happen 10 times a day for him. Fixing > the quickship will take care of it. > > Maybe with the configurable property, the muckity-mucks won't be so > reluctant to accept it. > > Skip > > -----Original Message----- > From: David E Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:24 PM > To: user@ofbiz.apache.org > Subject: Re: shipments made for out of stock items > > > > On Oct 24, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Dave Tenerowicz wrote: > >> The more I think about this, it seems inappropriate for an ERP >> system to allow this. Why would the quick ship service allow a user >> to charge a customers credit card and "ship" a physical product >> that the system "knew" was not available? > > For some users the system doesn't know everything... > >> Before charging the card, the sales person would want to confirm >> that the goods were actually available. Once this was confirmed, it >> would take a facility worker 30 seconds to adjust the inventory, >> leaving an audit trail etc. > > Yes, but not everyone wants to use it this way. > >> To me this seems like a JIRA issue, which should be fixed. >> >> I'll submit the issue and we'll submit a fix. > > It will most likely be rejected. > > -David > > >> Dave Tenerowicz wrote: >>> Thank you! >>> >>> David E Jones wrote: >>>> Well, there ya go! >>>> >>>> The quick ship order stuff doesn't check stock levels... >>>> >>>> -David >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Dave Tenerowicz wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, I should have mentioned that we created a new service to >>>>> automatically create shipments. It calls quickShipOrder as part >>>>> of it's processing. >>>>> -Dave >>>>> >>>>> David E Jones wrote: >>>>>> What do you mean by "being created"? >>>>>> >>>>>> There isn't really anything that automatically creates >>>>>> shipments, unless a human does it through some UI like the >>>>>> shipment or packing screens (or a service or something was >>>>>> written to automatically do it somehow). >>>>>> >>>>>> -David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 22, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Dave Tenerowicz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It appears that shipments are being created with out of stock >>>>>>> items in an implementation we are doing. I am guessing this is >>>>>>> due to product store settings, not a code issue. >>>>>>> rev = 545314 >>>>>>> check inventory=Y >>>>>>> reserve inventory=Y >>>>>>> require inventory=N >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All products are finished goods (no digital or virtual) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for any help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dave Tenerowicz >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Office: 303.493.6727 >>>>>>> Mobile 303.906.6116 >>>>>>> Fax 303.814.8330 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit us at http://www.salmonllc.com >>>>>>> For ERP Information: http://www.salmonllc.com/Jsp/vanity/ >>>>>>> ERP_CRM.jsp?nav=2&NavBarId=ERP_CRMServices >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dave Tenerowicz >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> Office: 303.493.6727 >>>>> Mobile 303.906.6116 >>>>> Fax 303.814.8330 >>>>> >>>>> Visit us at http://www.salmonllc.com >>>>> For ERP Information: http://www.salmonllc.com/Jsp/vanity/ >>>>> ERP_CRM.jsp?nav=2&NavBarId=ERP_CRMServices >>>>> >> -- >> Dave Tenerowicz >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Office: 303.493.6727 >> Mobile 303.906.6116 >> Fax 303.814.8330 >> >> Visit us at http://www.salmonllc.com >> For ERP Information: http://www.salmonllc.com/Jsp/vanity/ >> ERP_CRM.jsp?nav=2&NavBarId=ERP_CRMServices >> > > > > >