On Mar 9, 2009, at 10:45 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
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actually David I was not looking for Validation.
Nor was I looking for anyone to chime in.
Nor did I want to start a discussion.
Mailing lists are for discussion... in fact isn't that all they're for?
Communities are all about collaboration, which requires communication
among a large number of people, and that's what we use the mailing
lists for.
Just bring up an awareness.
In that scope, bringing up a specific case only focuses on that
problem
not the general point.
Is this your general point, something about: "short cuts for their
particular part of the code with out looking at the whole picture"?
That doesn't increase my awareness of anything, nor could I even
comment on that... it doesn't mean anything to me... it seems to
describes human nature and nothing about the code in the project...
but I really don't know.
If those coding don't understand, then there is no way I am going to
change them.
Try communicating in terms that people can understand, and also try
avoiding an attack on people you wish to influence. You've burned a
lot of bridges in the past and you seem to be trying to burn more...
what are your intentions here?
I believe the way I said is valid and will stand by that.
I couldn't say if it is valid or not, I really don't know. I have no
idea what you're trying to express because there is nothing in your
comment, not even a description of a general pattern that you find to
be a problem.
Please try to look at things from other people's point of view. Have
you ever noticed that what you call one thing someone else will
describe using very different words? Have you ever noticed that people
have different opinions of the same things? If you just talk about
your opinion, and no one knows what it is an opinion of, how can they
possibly communicate with you about it?
If you're looking for a definition of "troll", this is it! And here I
am feeding the troll. Do you understand why that is? Trolls attack
people using comments about things that cannot be discussed, leading
only to general bad feelings and wasting people's time and energy. I'd
say that well describes this thread...
Be clear and try to communicate with others in a friendly way, or
what's the point?
-David
David E Jones sent the following on 3/9/2009 9:27 AM:
Did I say or imply that?
Now we're getting into trolling... so unless you want to talk about
something specific...
-David
On Mar 9, 2009, at 10:17 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
and from your response you don't agree.
interesting.
David E Jones sent the following on 3/9/2009 8:27 AM:
Ranting without any details is not constructive or actionable.
Hire a shrink.
-David
On Mar 9, 2009, at 5:54 AM, BJ Freeman wrote:
I have been going through the code, and finding a frustration.
it seems that a lot of people are finding what i call short cuts
for
their particular part of the code with out looking at the whole
picture.
My frustration is the effort to maintain such code.
Yes I know I am making a general statement with no examples.
I believe anyone that is looking at maintain this code would
discover
the same thing.
So I ask all those that are creating patches, or adding new
code, please
look at the whole system before you make changes and see how we
can
reuse instead re-create the wheel over and over with just minor
changes.
End of rant.
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