Hi Ruth, This is the training material that is tempting me towards OpenBravo (who are ofbiz's main competitor from my perspective):
http://www.openbravo.com/files/training/course-guide-basic-functional-training_online.pdf I have my cheque book ready to enrol! If I attend their functional training, I will also need to attend their developer trainings to be able to offer services to my clients (total training cost approx $6,000). The training is expensive, but I am losing a lot of time (and revenue) trying to work out how ofbiz works from a end user perspective... What would be your ETA for producing ofbiz training covering similar topics to the above document? Many thanks, Chris Ruth Hoffman-2 wrote: > > Hello Chris: > I too know how frustrating it can be as I started using OFBiz before > there was much documentation. That is why, now that I have time, I am > working on end-user documentation and training. Currently, I've got a > book in the works covering the eCommerce component & the Catalog > Manager. Once I finish that, I plan to move on and tackle less well > known parts of the project. If you have a chance, you could help by > sending me a list of what you'd like to see worked on. > > IMHO, the only thing holding OFBiz back is lack of user friendly > documentation and training. > > Look forward to hearing from you. You can contact me directly at: > [email protected]. > > Regards, > Ruth > > BJ Freeman wrote: >> correction it has apache license >> >> BJ Freeman sent the following on 7/12/2009 3:55 PM: >> >>> LOL, sorry but I started when there was no documentation at all, 2003. >>> I have learned ofbiz. That is how much I believe in it. >>> Open bravo does not provide the frame I need for Automation. >>> it is also GPL licensed. >>> >From what I have seen it is not an enterprise level software. >>> To each his own. >>> :D >>> >>> snowch sent the following on 7/12/2009 2:45 PM: >>> >>>> The file DemoOrganizationData.xml looks as though it will provide the >>>> answers >>>> I am looking for. Many thanks! However the real problem is that >>>> learning >>>> ofbiz end user functionality is time consuming due to the lack of >>>> documentation. >>>> >>>> I found the same problem a few years back when learning technical >>>> development of ofbiz. In the end I gave up until Jonathon Wong's book >>>> was >>>> recently released. That book saved me hundreds of hours of trial and >>>> error >>>> development. I can now easily develop standalone ofbiz applications. >>>> However, I am now struggling with utilizing the existing ofbiz >>>> functionality. >>>> >>>> I think I will probably (reluctantly) end up moving to openbravo as my >>>> development framework for ERP applications based on the availability of >>>> their functional and developer training material (see >>>> http://www.openbravo.com/services/training/). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> BJ Freeman wrote: >>>> >>>>> yes, I got error messages the first time, >>>>> from the error messages I learned what needed to be done >>>>> hard way to learn. >>>>> I also looked at the DemoOrganization.xml for Ideas. >>>>> >>>>> snowch sent the following on 7/12/2009 2:11 PM: >>>>> >>>>>> I've realised that I need to use relationships from other posts, and >>>>>> from >>>>>> the >>>>>> ManagerReferenceParty.pdf. >>>>>> >>>>>> What is not clear is how? The UI doesn't have much meaning without >>>>>> some >>>>>> examples: >>>>>> >>>>>> New Relationship: >>>>>> >>>>>> of the Party with ID ___ >>>>>> in the role of ___ >>>>>> is a ___ >>>>>> of the current party ___ >>>>>> in the role of ___ >>>>>> And Party Relationship Security ___ >>>>>> >From Calendar ___ >>>>>> Thru Calendar ___ >>>>>> Comments ___ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> it is done through relationships >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> snowch sent the following on 7/12/2009 11:52 AM: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One area I'm struggling with is trying to create a party group and >>>>>>>> adding >>>>>>>> parties to the group. Is there any documentation on this specific >>>>>>>> area? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many thanks... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> End user Docs >>>>>>>>> There was an effort for a time to generate a help system of >>>>>>>>> enduser >>>>>>>>> docs, but that has sort of fallen off. >>>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBENDUSER/End+User+Documentation >>>>>>>>> there are fragements though out the doc site >>>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Applications+User+Manual >>>>>>>>> that has links in it to others >>>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/Accounting+Screens+Reference >>>>>>>>> you just have to go through them to pull them all together. >>>>>>>>> Hopefully some will put on energy into the first link to tie all >>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>> together. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> snowch sent the following on 7/12/2009 7:11 AM: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> By functional, I mean training that is aimed at the non-technical >>>>>>>>>> user. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am ok with developing ofbiz applications from scratch, but now >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> know how to use more of the ofbiz functionality out-of-the-box. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Reading through the Len Silverston data model books are useful, >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>> really describe the data model. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Many thanks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> not sure your definition for functional. >>>>>>>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Documentation+Index >>>>>>>>>>> on top of that David use to run seminars once a year. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> snowch sent the following on 7/10/2009 2:52 PM: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any functional training available for ofbiz? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>>>>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>>>>>>> Systems Integrator. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>>>>> Systems Integrator. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> BJ Freeman >>>>> http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation >>>>> http://bjfreeman.elance.com >>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro >>>>> Systems Integrator. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> >> > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/functional-training-tp24434948p24693013.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
