Hi Anil:
I'm sure this will start an avalanche of responses all directing vitriol towards me. Rest assured I don't take any attacks personally:

First off, IMHO, encouraging community contributions IS a problem for OFBiz. The "community" as you so correctly point out is one of software developers. There is much more to bringing a product to market, or more importantly, surviving to play another day, than software development and copious amounts of code contributed to a source code repository.

Secondly, OFBiz will never survive, let alone grow, if there are no new adopters (end-users, service providers or whatever you want to call them). I further argue that the project won't get any new adopters by sticking its collective head in the sand and ignoring real world issues like release management, quality control and my favorite, documentation and training.

And to your point about selling "services". I'm curious. Since you brought it up, what services does HotWax sell that help promote the health and well being of the OFBiz project? Or is that not what you do? Maybe I don't understand.

Well I for one feel really comfortable saying that I sell a "product" that helps promote the health and well being of OFBiz. Probably the only one out there? Not only that, my product is reasonably priced to encourage new OFBiz adopters. If you can afford to buy a week's worth of Starbuck lattes, you can afford to purchase my product. Does that make me a "Company" backing OFBiz? LOL!


Regards,
Ruth

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Regards,
Ruth

Anil Patel wrote:
Here is another blog http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10458449-16.html

One interesting issue these Company driven projects are struggling (evedent from reading these blogs) with is, encourage community to contribute. In Ofbiz we don't have this issue, Ofbiz is build on the concept of "Community driven software development"
I feel confident that OfBiz will live longer and grow much more quickly then usual 
software open source software dragged by corporations. Ofbiz service providers can focus 
on their core activity "Sell services", and not really wonder around to get 
funding to keep project alive and moving.

Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"

On Feb 24, 2010, at 11:14 AM, Anil Patel wrote:

Jacques,
Why do you think so?

It does not take too long to use 3M euros. And they are trying to make 
community contribution thing work for them, We got it working  for years.

In case of OpenERP, One provider is dominating the community. In case of Apache 
Ofbiz we don't encourage that. Its up to providers to decide how they want to 
use OfBiz for building their business.

Thanks and Regards
Anil Patel
HotWax Media Inc
Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz"

On Feb 24, 2010, at 10:15 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Maybe the future of OFBiz in Europe (and even in USA it seems) will be harder...

http://fptiny.blogspot.com/2010/02/openerp-raises-3-million-euros.html

Or maybe this ERP will not be Open-Source longer in the future...

Actually it was the last of the Open-Source ERPs to not follow this way (though 
I"m not sure for ERP5)

The strategy : 
http://robertogaloppini.net/2009/06/01/open-source-business-strategy-openerp-and-long-term-sustainability/

Jacques



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