From: "Al Byers" <[email protected]> >I feel like I owe another apology to the OFBiz developers. Though my > initial remarks were accidental (and embarrassing), I was wrong not to > acknowledge that OFBiz has a wealth of functionality that Moqui does not > approach at this time. And my lack of first hand knowledge of all the work > that has gone into upgrading OFBiz is no excuse for not acknowledging that. > I know that I will need and want to use OFBiz for the rest of my career and > those who have put so much effort into making it the valuable product that > it is should be commended, for they will never get full payback for their > work. Thanks for all that you have done.
Thanks Al, not only what we have done, we continue... Jacques > - Al Byers > > > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Jacques Le Roux < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> From: "Al Byers" <[email protected]> >> > Sorry Adrian, >> > >> > Had my mind on too many things and didn't mean to send it to the list. >> But >> > then, a dose of "open mike" might be refreshing. I know that there are >> some >> > great developers on OFBiz, but sometimes things get too large to refactor >> > and a fresh start is better. >> >> This was already discussed indeed. This option is still open. On the other >> hand, after more than a decade, I believe OFBiz is even better. >> For almost 3 years now we are less including new features and more fixing >> what exists. >> Notably in the framewors itself, where a replacement by Moqui makes more >> sense. >> We are even removing unused stuff, sometimes too harshly said Skip >> recently, nobody's perfect. >> >> > I don't think American car manufacturers were really concerned about >> > improving their product until the Japanese came along. And, even then, I >> > don't think that they have become competitive except to the extent that >> > they have pushed the "reset" button. >> >> In French we say "comparaison n'est pas raison". Don't try to translate >> with Google (again lost in translation). But I guess you can get it without. >> >> > It is not reasonable to think that OFBiz will just make the next release >> on >> > Moqui, but it seems like there could be a vanguard interested in making a >> > port. >> >> I think nobody is against it. As you say this would be a long, or maybe >> medium, term goal. >> OFBiz is considered stable now. Replacing the framework with Moqui would >> certainly take some time before acquiring the same level of stability >> >> Jacques >> PS: thanks Adrian for your defense of the team >> >> > -Al >> > >> > >> > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Adrian Crum < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> A quick clarification on this. >> >> >> >> "OFBiz was brilliant when David created it over ten years ago, but..." >> >> implies OFBiz is no longer brilliant. OFBiz continues to be just as >> >> brilliant, with a talented team of developers keeping it current with >> >> current technology. >> >> >> >> -Adrian >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5/20/2013 4:04 PM, Al Byers wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Carlos, >> >>> >> >>> I am just starting to look around for OFBiz work and was intrigued to >> see >> >>> your email there this morning. I have been working with OFBiz for over >> 10 >> >>> years now and am interested in what you have going. >> >>> >> >>> But I must ask if you have considered Moqui (moqui.org < >> http://moqui.org>) >> >>> - David Jones's successor to OFBiz? I was just at a small conference >> with >> >>> David and the folks at HowWax Media and based on David's comments and >> what >> >>> I know about Moqui from my past year of working with it, if you are >> >>> starting anew, and especially if you are not using the current >> e-commerce >> >>> features of OFBiz, then you would be well served to look at Moqui. >> OFBiz >> >>> was brilliant when David created it over ten years ago, but technology >> has >> >>> made great advances in that time and if you have the freedom to do so, >> it >> >>> makes sense to start with the latest base. >> >>> >> >>> I have attached David's introduction to Moqui PDF, which I don't think >> is >> >>> readily available off the moqui.org <http://moqui.org> website. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I hope to hear from you soon. >> >>> >> >>> Al Byers >> >>> 801-400-5111 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Carlos Cruz <[email protected] >> <mailto: >> >>> carlos@nbtbizcapital.**com <[email protected]>>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi; >> >>> >> >>> I'm looking for a Java programmer that is familiar with OFBiz. >> >>> Particularly with OFBiz Web Services and OFBiz Entity Engine. >> >>> >> >>> I'm interested in hosting OFBiz for some very specific industries >> >>> and I want to develop some very specific interfaces. >> >>> >> >>> This is a long term project, I could be flexible with the hours. >> >>> >> >>> If you're interested email me for more details. >> >>> >> >>> Also feel free to forward this email to someone you think might be >> >>> interested. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks!! >> >>> >> >>> Carlos >> >>> >> >>> logo-for-social-media-sites-**email_signature >> >>> >> >>> CruzControl Radius >> >>> >> >>> Your Success Is Our Service >> >>> >> >>> www.ccradius.com <http://www.ccradius.com> >> >>> >> >>> email:[email protected] <mailto:email%3Acarlos@**ccradius.com< >> email%[email protected]> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> 1-877-285-5499 <tel:1-877-285-5499> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >
