Le 18/02/2014 10:54, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
On Feb 17, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Nick Rosser <[email protected]> wrote:

So what's the final word on this?

Seems like we have mostly "yeahs" for this change.
This doesn't seem an accurate summary of the feedback received: Jacques and 
Pierre expressed a positive feedback; Christian seems neutral; I am against; no 
one else expressed an opinion yet.
It is really too early to come up to such a conclusion.
I did not express a positive feedback, I simply noted that Nick was right about not being a load issue. So basically I'm still neutral.
Can we get it done?
I understand that companies are interested in getting free marketing (SEO etc..) from 
independent and authoritative sources like the official OFBiz site and the ASF in 
general, and this adds some pressure on the OFBiz PMC and project. However, as I already 
stated, I will be against any changes, e.g., adding a link on the "top menu", 
that may convey the impression that the project officially supports or even approves any 
content on which there is no control, e.g., the content of wiki documents.
I don't agree that we (PMC) have no control on the wiki. I monitor any change on Confluence and when I disagree I react.
Specifically, the links you want to add in the top menu point to the following 
documents:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Service+Providers
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+User+List

for which there is no control or rules on who, what and how information can be 
published, and there are links that potentially violate the trademarks policy  
of OFBIZ and ASF.
After a cursory review of the content of these documents I would be even 
tempted to propose the removal of the links from the documentation page, rather 
than adding them to the top menu (and I am a bit surprised to see that a PMC 
member may be in favor of adding them there).

Please could you point the issues you see there? I believe we should trust the community and if there are issues on these pages we should fix those issues, this is our duty.

Jacques

Regards,

Jacopo

Nick

On 2/12/2014 5:45 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
It shouldn't prove to difficult to have menu items in the menu bar of the
website that directly link to pages in the wiki.

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM<http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services&  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail&  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Jacopo Cappellato<
[email protected]>  wrote:

The project doesn't have much control over the information published in
the wiki and we should not publish links in the official website that may
imply that these pages are official. In the past we had issues and
discussions around what was published in the official website and the
current website is the result of those.

Jacopo


On Feb 10, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Jacques Le Roux<
[email protected]>  wrote:

I think you have a point Nick,

We could add those without expecting load issues on Confluence indeed.

Jacques

On Friday, February 07, 2014 4:06 PM, [email protected] wrote
Pierre: "attract some more participation" -- exactly.

I did see a response about the original change to omit these from the
home page - I can't imagine that we have enough traffic to stress any
server.

If there is general agreement who can make the change?

On 2/7/2014 3:53 AM, Pierre Smits wrote:
I agree with the above.

Not only will it deliver on the marketing aspect, but it might also
attract
some more participation.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM<http://ORRTIZ.COM>*
Services&   Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail&   Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Jacques Le Roux<
[email protected]>   wrote:

That sounds a good marketing idea to me

This was a bit like that before,
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=925066
But has been moved down because of conflicting opinions. I don't
remember
clearly...

What are others opinions?

Jacques

On Wednesday, February 05, 2014 2:40 PM, [email protected] wrote
All,

Whenever I look at pretty much anything these days I look for a
"clients" link to see who is using a product or service.

If I'm looking to use a piece of software and review at the vendor's
site I will often look to see who are the partners (integrators) are
--
as a client I would be looking for some comfort level that the
product
or service will well supported.

For OFBiz this is hidden under the "documentation" tab, at the
bottom of
that page, in small font and labelled "Users of Apache OFBiz".and
"Apache OFBiz Service Providers". Documentation to me is just that, a
list of user and technical documentation, white papers etc.

Could these two links to main navigation bar? I would suggest that
the
main navigation is:

Home
Download
Community
Service Providers
Who is using OFBiz?
Documentation

Nick


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