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On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 1:35 PM, Taher Alkhateeb <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Hi Sharan,
>
> Very smart idea simple and to the point. We avoid a mountain of work by
> simply not releasing. I see two major benefits of not making a new releases
> of 14 or 15
>
> 1- the compliance with no binaries issue for the ASF is automatically
> achieved without any work
> 2-  the community as a whole can now focus on the future by upgrading and
> migrating to the new releases where all the hot stuff is happening
>
> Under the special circumstances we are going through with this wake up call
> to refactor and improve the framework and the big new features being added
> it makes sense to unify our efforts.
>
> With that being said we need to focus our efforts on making a new release
> soon to have something tangible with all the goodies in the hands of our
> users.
>
> Taher Alkhateeb
> On Jun 30, 2016 10:05 AM, "Sharan Foga" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the response -Jacopo. (You posted a minute before I did!)
> >
> > Anyway I think that I might have an idea that could solve our problem –
> > let's just leave 14.12 and 15.12 as unreleased branches.
> >
> > The jar issue is only an issue if we want to convert the unreleased
> > branches into a release. Unreleased they can contain the jar files and
> the
> > special purpose components etc – but if we want to release them then we
> > need to fix the jar file problem before it can be released.
> >
> > Christian mentions that people are using the unreleased branches, so by
> > leaving them unreleased, we are actually giving our users something that
> > can help them move from 13.07.
> >
> > So I suggest that we seriously consider leaving 14.12 and 15.12 as
> > unreleased branches.
> >
> > For the next point – I think our next release should be the 16.x – so
> that
> > means that we are not backporting any changes and can take a branch
> > directly from the trunk once the gradle changes have been applied.
> >
> > Comments anyone?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> >
> > On 2016-06-30 07:25 (+0200), Jacopo Cappellato <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Christian Geisert <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...
> > > > My proposal is to release 14.12 ASAP, after that dropping 13.07 and
> > then
> > > > trying to do a release 16.x with Gradle. And a release of 15.12in
> > > > between wouldn't be bad either ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Thank you Christian.
> > > Your proposal makes sense but the problem is that we will not be able
> to
> > > release (14.12, 15.12 etc...) until we have removed all the jars from
> the
> > > distribution, and implementing this in the branches will require some
> > > layout changes that will bring instability: the releases will be
> delayed
> > > regardless and if we want to implement two different mechanisms for
> > > downloading the jars for 14.12 vs the trunk and 16.x etc... than the
> > > codebases will become rather different and more difficult to maintain;
> > and
> > > the extra effort will have to be backed up by the interested users. We
> > have
> > > to consider these aspects and do a reality check on resources before
> > moving
> > > in any direction.
> > >
> > > Jacopo
> > >
> >
>

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