Hi Everyone

Thanks very much for the feedback. I'm glad that this solution will resolve our 
current problems without taking away any functionality from the service 
providers or developers that are using the unreleased branches.  

Our next step will be to create and stabilise the 16.x release ASAP so that our 
user community will have another release available. This will become our top 
priority.

I suggest that we close off the discussion now as I think we've had quite a 
detailed discussion and it looks like we have come to a consensus and resolved 
the issues. We can now take the discussion back to the dev list where we can 
talk about the timings, release roadmap and also the support timeframe for the 
unreleased branches.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2016-06-30 11:01 (+0200), Michael Brohl <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Great idea, +1
> 
> Michael Brohl
> ecomify GmbH
> www.ecomify.de
> 
> 
> Am 30.06.16 um 09:05 schrieb Sharan Foga:
> > Thanks for the response -Jacopo. (You posted a minute before I did!)
> >
> > Anyway I think that I might have an idea that could solve our problem 
> > – let's just leave 14.12 and 15.12 as unreleased branches.
> >
> > The jar issue is only an issue if we want to convert the unreleased 
> > branches into a release. Unreleased they can contain the jar files and the 
> > special purpose components etc – but if we want to release them then 
> > we need to fix the jar file problem before it can be released.
> >
> > Christian mentions that people are using the unreleased branches, so by 
> > leaving them unreleased, we are actually giving our users something that 
> > can help them move from 13.07.
> >
> > So I suggest that we seriously consider leaving 14.12 and 15.12 as 
> > unreleased branches.
> >
> > For the next point – I think our next release should be the 16.x 
> > – so that means that we are not backporting any changes and can take 
> > a branch directly from the trunk once the gradle changes have been applied.
> >
> > Comments anyone?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> >
> > On 2016-06-30 07:25 (+0200), Jacopo Cappellato 
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Christian Geisert <
> >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> ...
> >>> My proposal is to release 14.12 ASAP, after that dropping 13.07 and then
> >>> trying to do a release 16.x with Gradle. And a release of 15.12in
> >>> between wouldn't be bad either ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Thank you Christian.
> >> Your proposal makes sense but the problem is that we will not be able to
> >> release (14.12, 15.12 etc...) until we have removed all the jars from the
> >> distribution, and implementing this in the branches will require some
> >> layout changes that will bring instability: the releases will be delayed
> >> regardless and if we want to implement two different mechanisms for
> >> downloading the jars for 14.12 vs the trunk and 16.x etc... than the
> >> codebases will become rather different and more difficult to maintain; and
> >> the extra effort will have to be backed up by the interested users. We have
> >> to consider these aspects and do a reality check on resources before moving
> >> in any direction.
> >>
> >> Jacopo
> >>
> 
> 
> 

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