Hi Maxim,

maybe I have time in the evening, otherwise tomorrow...

Greetings Peter

Am 15.08.2018 um 12:44 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
Hello Peter,

please provide new translation, I believe you don't need to wait for new English strings for this :)

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:10 PM Peter Dähn <da...@vcrp.de <mailto:da...@vcrp.de>> wrote:

    I could provide the German translation. Shall I wait till it is
    included and just provide just the changed xml?

    Greetings Peter

    Am 15.08.2018 um 09:24 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-1921

    Here is the list of current labels:

    <entry key="ulist.right.audio.grant"><![CDATA[Allow this user to
    use microphone]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.audio.revoke"><![CDATA[Deny this user to
    use microphone]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.audio.request"><![CDATA[I would like to
    use microphone]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.exclusive.grant"><![CDATA[Allow this user
    to mute others]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.exclusive.revoke"><![CDATA[Deny this user
    to mute others]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.exclusive.request"><![CDATA[I would like
    to get the right for exclusive audio]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.moderator.grant"><![CDATA[Grant moderator
    rights to this user]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.moderator.revoke"><![CDATA[Remove
    moderator role from this user]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.moderator.request"><![CDATA[Apply to be a
    moderator]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.presenter.grant"><![CDATA[Grant presenter
    rights to this user]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.presenter.revoke"><![CDATA[Remove
    presenter role from this user]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.presenter.request"><![CDATA[I would like
    to be presenter]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.remote.grant"><![CDATA[Allow Remote
    Control (during screen sharing)]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.remote.revoke"><![CDATA[Deny Remote
    Control (during screen sharing)]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.remote.request"><![CDATA[Apply for right
    to Remote Control Screen (during screen sharing)]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.share.grant"><![CDATA[Allow user to share
    screen/record]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.share.revoke"><![CDATA[Deny user to share
    screen/record]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.share.request"><![CDATA[I would like to
    share/record screen.]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.video.grant"><![CDATA[Allow this user to
    publish their audio/video]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.video.revoke"><![CDATA[Remove audio/video
    of this user]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.video.request"><![CDATA[I would like to
    share my audio/video]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.wb.grant"><![CDATA[Allow to draw on
    whiteboard]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.wb.revoke"><![CDATA[Remove ability to
    draw on whiteboard]]></entry>
    <entry key="ulist.right.wb.request"><![CDATA[I would like to draw
    on the whiteboard]]></entry>
    <entry key="activities.request.right.moderator"><![CDATA[would
    like to be moderator of this room.]]></entry>
    <entry key="activities.request.right.presenter"><![CDATA[would
    like to be presenter]]></entry>
    <entry key="activities.request.right.wb"><![CDATA[would like to
    draw on whiteboard]]></entry>
    <entry key="activities.request.right.share"><![CDATA[would like
    to share/record screen.]]></entry>
    <entry key="activities.request.right.remote"><![CDATA[would like
    to remote control screen.]]></entry>
    <entry key="activities.request.right.audio"><![CDATA[would like
    to use micropone]]></entry>
    <entry key="activities.request.right.video"><![CDATA[would like
    to share his audio/video]]></entry>
    <entry key="activities.request.right.exclusive"><![CDATA[would
    like to have permission for exclusive audio.]]></entry>
    <entry key="activities.ask.question"><![CDATA[would like to ask a
    question]]></entry>
    <entry key="camera.on"><![CDATA[Turn on camera]]></entry>
    <entry key="camera.off"><![CDATA[Turn off camera]]></entry>
    <entry key="microphone.on"><![CDATA[Turn on microphone]]></entry>
    <entry key="microphone.off"><![CDATA[Turn off microphone]]></entry>


    On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 8:25 PM Daniel Ascher
    <aplusad...@aplustutoring.com
    <mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:

        Will do. Thanks!

        Dan

        On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 3:11 AM, Maxim Solodovnik
        <solomax...@gmail.com <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

            Text will be enough :)

            On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 7:32 AM Daniel Ascher
            <aplusad...@aplustutoring.com
            <mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:

                Maxim, I will try to create a complete list of labels
                for all of these. Do you need me to include the icon
                for each one in the list that I create? Or can I just
                list the labels without icons?

                Thanks! Dan



                On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 10:58 PM, Maxim Solodovnik
                <solomax...@gmail.com <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>>
                wrote:

                    Hello Daniel,

                    as you might notice there are 2 sets of icons in
                    user list
                    1) own icons (always visible and BIG)
                    2) icons of other people (visible to moderators only)

                    Additionally there are icons for right/permission
                    and for action
                    Rights/permissions can be:
                    , moderator
                    , presenter
                    , whiteBoard
                    , share
                    , remoteControl
                    , audio
                    , video
                    , exclusive
                    User can send request for each permission (if
                    "user questions are allowed")
                    Moderator can grant/revoke each permission

                    Actions can be:
                       camera
                       microphone
                       kick
                    first 2 can be started/stopped

                    These actions require labels

                    According to "gear" icon, I believe there is no
                    need to disable it, user can set up devices (get
                    prepared for the conference any time with any
                    level of permissions ....)



                    On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 12:07 AM Daniel Ascher
                    <aplusad...@aplustutoring.com
                    <mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:

                        Maxim. Are these just for the webcam and mic,
                        or are there other icons that need labels as
                        well? I can provide the language for the
                        different icons if I know which ones you need
                        changes to.

                        For the webcam and mic icons:

                         Turn on camera

                         Turn off camera

                         Turn on mic

                         Turn off mic

                        I have one other suggestion for camera and mic:

                         If a user DOES NOT have permission to share
                        webcam or audio can this icon be grayed out?
                        Or can different hover text be shown in that
                        situation (see below) such as "Webcam and mic
                        settings not available without permission,"
                        or "You must request webcam or mic permission"





                        Permissions:

                        In general I think most of the permission
                        messages are already good. For permission
                        requests I would slightly adjust the language
                        in the English version to be:

                        1) Ask for permission for  -- Change to
                        "Request permission to........."
                        2) Give permission for -- Change to "Accept
                        request to........."
                        3) Remove permission for -- Change to "Remove
                        permission to........"

                        Examples:

                         1. Request permission to be presenter
                         2. Accept request to present
                         3. Remove permission to present

                         Request permission to share my webcam

                        When the moderator allows a participant to
                        have permission (without a request from the
                        user), I would use the "Allow" language. So

                        1. Allow this user to publish their
                        audio/video -- Change to "Allow user to share
                        webcam"
                        2. Allow this user to publish their audio --
                        Change to "Allow user to use mic"
                        3. Would like to have right to be presenter
                        in the room -- Change to "Allow user to be
                        presenter"
                        4. Would like to draw on whiteboard -- Change
                        to "Allow user to draw"
                        5. Allow user to share screen/record -- No change
                        6. Allow remote control (during screen
                        sharing) -- No change
                        7. I would like to get the right for
                        exclusive audio -- Change to "Allow exclusive
                        audio"
                        8. Grant moderator rights to this user
                        --"Allow user to have moderator rights"

                        Please let me know if this is helpful and if
                        there are other icons you need suggestions for.

                        Dan






















                        On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 5:48 AM, Maxim
                        Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com
                        <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                            Sure we can change the labels
                            For every icon we need several labels:

                            1) Ask for permission for
                            2) Give permission for
                            3) Remove permission for

                            For some of them
                            4) Turn on
                            5) Turn off

                            I would appreciate if you can provide
                            good text

                            On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 9:13 PM Daniel
                            Ascher <aplusad...@aplustutoring.com
                            <mailto:aplusad...@aplustutoring.com>> wrote:

                                Hi all.

                                I recently learned about a new system
                                similar to OM that is not open-source
                                but is currently free to use. In the
                                future they will be charging for it's
                                use.

                                I am sharing this information here
                                because they have many of the same
                                features as OM but they also have a
                                few additional features that might be
                                useful to have in OM, if possible. So
                                take a look if you are interested. Go
                                to goboard.com <http://goboard.com>
                                to see it. It's very similar to OM
                                but it has a more modern look. It's
                                also a simpler system which is
                                basically only designed for one
                                purpose (tutoring) so it has many
                                fewer features (no calendar for example).

                                One nice feature is that you can add
                                an image from your mobile phone by
                                texting it. Here is the screenshot of
                                how that works. It just simplifies
                                things for someone who wants to take
                                a photo with a phone during a session
                                and upload it to the whiteboard easily.


                                Also, I think the instructions for
                                turning on your webcam and mic are
                                clearer in their system. I you hover
                                over the webcam icon you see text
                                that says "turn on my camera" which
                                is _not confusing_. And if the camera
                                is on and you hover, the message says
                                "turn off my camera." In OM it says
                                "you are allowed to share your
                                audio/video." Maybe we can change the
                                language to make it easier to
                                understand. I know the icons change
                                (adds an "x" if the camera on mic is
                                on) but it's not intuitive and
                                confuses users.




                                If anyone else has a chance to look
                                at goboard.com <http://goboard.com>
                                maybe you see other things that would
                                be good ideas for OM. Note that
                                goboard is using WebRTC, which OM
                                doesn't have yet, and we are
                                therefore still stuck with the
                                limitations of using flash and I know
                                that makes things different in terms
                                of what we are able to do at the moment.

                                Best.

                                Dan



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