...if you are working on CentOS 7 please try
recording with Firefox 78...

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On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 08:43:31 +0200
Alvaro <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Sebastian, Jeffry do you install kurento media server indicating
> the path to qcom_data?
> Please take a look in the last tutorials for OM 6.1.0
> that use the script "tomcat34" not "tomcat3" to run OM.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Alvaro
> 
> 
> 
> -----------
> 
> 
> On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 17:30:54 -0600
> Jeffry Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > ok, now i"m getting more confident here. I've redirected the Data Dir to
> > /qcom_data/ on the root directory. THis is the NFS share that our server
> > team set up for me. I accomplished the redirect by inserting the following
> > line into the tomcat3 file:
> > export JAVA_OPTS="-Djava.awt.headless=true -DDATA_DIR=/qcom_data/"
> > 
> > Here is what the files look like after stopping the recording:
> > 
> > [image: image.png]
> > 
> > This is what appears when clicking the caution icon:
> > 
> > [image: image.png]
> > 
> > Here are the streaming files in the right directory:
> > 
> > [image: image.png]
> > 
> > Here is the full stack trace from beginning of recording to the end in the
> > logs:
> > 
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:56.691 o.a.o.c.r.KRoom:120 [ventExec-e2-t23] - ##REC::
> > recording in room 241 is starting ::
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:56.692 o.a.o.c.r.KRoom:147 [ventExec-e2-t23] - ##REC::
> > recording created by USER: 1
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:56.718 o.a.o.c.r.StreamProcessor:90 [nio-5443-exec-7] -
> > Incoming message from user with ID '1':
> > {"type":"kurento","id":"onIceCandidate","candidate":{"candidate":"candidate:3031263214
> > 1 tcp 1518280447 10.43.204.201 9 typ host tcptype active generation 0 ufrag
> > Fie8 network-id
> > 1","sdpMid":"0","sdpMLineIndex":0},"uid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd","luid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd"}
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:56.725 o.a.o.c.r.StreamProcessor:90 [nio-5443-exec-7] -
> > Incoming message from user with ID '1':
> > {"type":"kurento","id":"onIceCandidate","candidate":{"candidate":"candidate:2078137933
> > 1 tcp 1518217471 2601:680:ca00:6cb0:7584:5137:c3a5:f49 9 typ host tcptype
> > active generation 0 ufrag Fie8 network-id 3 network-cost
> > 10","sdpMid":"0","sdpMLineIndex":0},"uid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd","luid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd"}
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:56.730 o.a.o.c.r.StreamProcessor:90 [nio-5443-exec-7] -
> > Incoming message from user with ID '1':
> > {"type":"kurento","id":"onIceCandidate","candidate":{"candidate":"candidate:1021992780
> > 1 tcp 1518151935 2601:680:ca00:6cb0::635 9 typ host tcptype active
> > generation 0 ufrag Fie8 network-id 4 network-cost
> > 10","sdpMid":"0","sdpMLineIndex":0},"uid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd","luid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd"}
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:56.735 o.a.o.c.r.StreamProcessor:90 [nio-5443-exec-7] -
> > Incoming message from user with ID '1':
> > {"type":"kurento","id":"onIceCandidate","candidate":{"candidate":"candidate:428269470
> > 1 tcp 1518086399 2601:680:ca00:6cb0:d4ec:98a1:247d:6c5a 9 typ host tcptype
> > active generation 0 ufrag Fie8 network-id 5 network-cost
> > 10","sdpMid":"0","sdpMLineIndex":0},"uid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd","luid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd"}
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:56.740 o.a.o.c.r.StreamProcessor:90 [nio-5443-exec-7] -
> > Incoming message from user with ID '1':
> > {"type":"kurento","id":"onIceCandidate","candidate":{"candidate":"candidate:3105188002
> > 1 tcp 1518018303 10.0.0.202 9 typ host tcptype active generation 0 ufrag
> > Fie8 network-id 2 network-cost
> > 10","sdpMid":"0","sdpMLineIndex":0},"uid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd","luid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd"}
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:56.825 o.a.o.c.r.KurentoHandler:502 [pool-3-thread-6] -
> > Kurento::ObjectCreated -> New Endpoint
> > 8479330b-47c2-4070-9718-e7071f235534_kurento.MediaPipeline/4e72fc3a-ff84-44d1-95dd-dd51bd2e8811_kurento.WebRtcEndpoint
> > detected, tags: {uid=8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd,
> > outUid=8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd}, kStream: KStream
> > [kRoom=org.apache.openmeetings.core.remote.KRoom@42c72392,
> > streamType=SCREEN, profile=WEBM_VIDEO_ONLY, recorder=null,
> > outgoingMedia=[RemoteObject: type=WebRtcEndpoint
> > remoteRef=8479330b-47c2-4070-9718-e7071f235534_kurento.MediaPipeline/4e72fc3a-ff84-44d1-95dd-dd51bd2e8811_kurento.WebRtcEndpoint],
> > listeners={}, flowoutFuture=Optional.empty, chunkId=null, type=SCREEN,
> > sid=7c541378-cf4c-429a-9a89-e9be993c8897,
> > uid=8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd]
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:56.889 o.a.o.c.r.StreamProcessor:90 [nio-5443-exec-3] -
> > Incoming message from user with ID '1':
> > {"type":"kurento","id":"onIceCandidate","candidate":{"candidate":"candidate:133411719
> > 1 udp 41885439 172.17.129.147 57439 typ relay raddr 10.43.204.201 rport
> > 54669 generation 0 ufrag Fie8 network-id
> > 1","sdpMid":"0","sdpMLineIndex":0},"uid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd","luid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd"}
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:57.687 o.a.o.c.r.KStream:345 [ventExec-e2-t23] -
> > startRecord outMedia OK ? true
> >  INFO 09-17 19:21:57.688 o.a.o.u.OmFileHelper:236 [ventExec-e2-t23] -
> > Configured to record to
> > file:///qcom_data/streams/241/rec_568_06e13054-286a-4b18-8959-15980ded64e9.webm
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:57.691 o.a.o.c.r.KurentoHandler:433 [ventExec-e2-t28] -
> > Kurento::ObjectCreated -> [RemoteObject: type=RecorderEndpoint
> > remoteRef=8479330b-47c2-4070-9718-e7071f235534_kurento.MediaPipeline/e6fe24a7-1073-4e06-a657-329214ec7e72_kurento.RecorderEndpoint],
> > source [RemoteObject: type=ServerManager remoteRef=manager_ServerManager]
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:57.701 o.a.o.c.r.KStream:345 [ventExec-e2-t23] -
> > startRecord outMedia OK ? true
> >  INFO 09-17 19:21:57.702 o.a.o.u.OmFileHelper:236 [ventExec-e2-t23] -
> > Configured to record to
> > file:///qcom_data/streams/241/rec_568_ca6ec11e-8672-4bbb-9378-0d51bd03b905.webm
> >  INFO 09-17 19:21:57.706 o.a.o.c.r.KStream:375 [ventExec-e2-t28] -
> > Recording started successfully
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:57.747 o.a.o.c.r.KurentoHandler:433 [ventExec-e2-t28] -
> > Kurento::ObjectCreated -> [RemoteObject: type=RecorderEndpoint
> > remoteRef=2d9aab74-e536-438e-9f71-e268a07fc5b5_kurento.MediaPipeline/11e51051-faed-4296-b731-68c6cb6f7bd7_kurento.RecorderEndpoint],
> > source [RemoteObject: type=ServerManager remoteRef=manager_ServerManager]
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:57.756 o.a.o.c.r.KRoom:163 [ventExec-e2-t23] - ##REC::
> > recording in room 241 is started 568 ::
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:57.756 o.a.o.d.d.r.PollDao:104 [Thread-1003] -  ::
> > hasPoll :: 241
> >  INFO 09-17 19:21:57.760 o.a.o.c.r.KStream:375 [ventExec-e2-t23] -
> > Recording started successfully
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:57.835 o.a.o.d.d.r.PollDao:98 [Thread-1003] -  ::
> > getArchived :: 241
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:57.897 o.a.o.c.r.KurentoHandler:502 [pool-3-thread-3] -
> > Kurento::ObjectCreated -> New Endpoint
> > 8479330b-47c2-4070-9718-e7071f235534_kurento.MediaPipeline/e6fe24a7-1073-4e06-a657-329214ec7e72_kurento.RecorderEndpoint
> > detected, tags: {uid=8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd,
> > outUid=8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd}, kStream: KStream
> > [kRoom=org.apache.openmeetings.core.remote.KRoom@42c72392,
> > streamType=SCREEN, profile=WEBM_VIDEO_ONLY, recorder=[RemoteObject:
> > type=RecorderEndpoint
> > remoteRef=8479330b-47c2-4070-9718-e7071f235534_kurento.MediaPipeline/e6fe24a7-1073-4e06-a657-329214ec7e72_kurento.RecorderEndpoint],
> > outgoingMedia=[RemoteObject: type=WebRtcEndpoint
> > remoteRef=8479330b-47c2-4070-9718-e7071f235534_kurento.MediaPipeline/4e72fc3a-ff84-44d1-95dd-dd51bd2e8811_kurento.WebRtcEndpoint],
> > listeners={}, flowoutFuture=Optional.empty, chunkId=null, type=SCREEN,
> > sid=7c541378-cf4c-429a-9a89-e9be993c8897,
> > uid=8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd]
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:57.951 o.a.o.c.r.KurentoHandler:502 [pool-3-thread-4] -
> > Kurento::ObjectCreated -> New Endpoint
> > 2d9aab74-e536-438e-9f71-e268a07fc5b5_kurento.MediaPipeline/11e51051-faed-4296-b731-68c6cb6f7bd7_kurento.RecorderEndpoint
> > detected, tags: {uid=61d3c734-6355-4f9b-b646-65504bc8d860,
> > outUid=61d3c734-6355-4f9b-b646-65504bc8d860}, kStream: KStream
> > [kRoom=org.apache.openmeetings.core.remote.KRoom@42c72392,
> > streamType=WEBCAM, profile=WEBM, recorder=[RemoteObject:
> > type=RecorderEndpoint
> > remoteRef=2d9aab74-e536-438e-9f71-e268a07fc5b5_kurento.MediaPipeline/11e51051-faed-4296-b731-68c6cb6f7bd7_kurento.RecorderEndpoint],
> > outgoingMedia=[RemoteObject: type=WebRtcEndpoint
> > remoteRef=2d9aab74-e536-438e-9f71-e268a07fc5b5_kurento.MediaPipeline/572fa000-edef-48bf-948e-722f83ab76b8_kurento.WebRtcEndpoint],
> > listeners={}, flowoutFuture=Optional.empty, chunkId=null, type=AUDIO_VIDEO,
> > sid=7c541378-cf4c-429a-9a89-e9be993c8897,
> > uid=61d3c734-6355-4f9b-b646-65504bc8d860]
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:57.969 o.a.o.d.d.r.RecordingChunkDao:96 [ventExec-e2-t23]
> > - [update]:
> >  INFO 09-17 19:21:58.449 o.a.o.c.r.KStream:197 [ventExec-e2-t23] - Media
> > Flow OUT STATE :: FLOWING, mediaType VIDEO, source [RemoteObject:
> > type=WebRtcEndpoint
> > remoteRef=8479330b-47c2-4070-9718-e7071f235534_kurento.MediaPipeline/4e72fc3a-ff84-44d1-95dd-dd51bd2e8811_kurento.WebRtcEndpoint],
> > sid 7c541378-cf4c-429a-9a89-e9be993c8897, uid
> > 8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:21:58.907 o.a.o.d.d.r.RecordingChunkDao:96 [ventExec-e2-t23]
> > - [update]:
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:31.836 o.a.o.c.r.StreamProcessor:90 [nio-5443-exec-5] -
> > Incoming message from user with ID '1':
> > {"type":"kurento","id":"stopRecord","uid":"8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd"}
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:31.837 o.a.o.c.r.KRoom:169 [nio-5443-exec-5] - ##REC::
> > recording in room 241 is stopping 568 ::
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:31.887 o.a.o.c.r.KurentoHandler:184 [ventExec-e2-t28] -
> > Kurento::ObjectDestroyedEvent objectId
> > 2d9aab74-e536-438e-9f71-e268a07fc5b5_kurento.MediaPipeline/11e51051-faed-4296-b731-68c6cb6f7bd7_kurento.RecorderEndpoint,
> > tags [], source [RemoteObject: type=ServerManager
> > remoteRef=manager_ServerManager]
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:31.888 o.a.o.c.r.KurentoHandler:184 [ventExec-e2-t18] -
> > Kurento::ObjectDestroyedEvent objectId
> > 8479330b-47c2-4070-9718-e7071f235534_kurento.MediaPipeline/e6fe24a7-1073-4e06-a657-329214ec7e72_kurento.RecorderEndpoint,
> > tags [], source [RemoteObject: type=ServerManager
> > remoteRef=manager_ServerManager]
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:32.873 o.a.o.c.c.RecordingConverter:51 [taskExecutor-2] -
> > recording 568
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:32.875 o.a.o.c.r.KRoom:192 [nio-5443-exec-5] - ##REC::
> > recording in room 241 is stopped ::
> >  INFO 09-17 19:22:32.877 o.a.o.c.r.StreamProcessor:273 [nio-5443-exec-5] -
> > No more screen streams in the room, stopping sharing
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:32.878 o.a.o.c.r.KStream:405 [nio-5443-exec-5] -
> > PARTICIPANT 8cf8103e-dc75-4f66-bcd8-5e21fb20fbbd: Releasing listeners
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:32.881 o.a.o.c.r.KurentoHandler:184 [ventExec-e2-t17] -
> > Kurento::ObjectDestroyedEvent objectId
> > 8479330b-47c2-4070-9718-e7071f235534_kurento.MediaPipeline/4e72fc3a-ff84-44d1-95dd-dd51bd2e8811_kurento.WebRtcEndpoint,
> > tags [], source [RemoteObject: type=ServerManager
> > remoteRef=manager_ServerManager]
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:32.883 o.a.o.c.r.KurentoHandler:184 [ventExec-e2-t17] -
> > Kurento::ObjectDestroyedEvent objectId
> > 8479330b-47c2-4070-9718-e7071f235534_kurento.MediaPipeline, tags [], source
> > [RemoteObject: type=ServerManager remoteRef=manager_ServerManager]
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:32.885 o.a.o.d.d.r.PollDao:104 [Thread-1176] -  ::
> > hasPoll :: 241
> > ERROR 09-17 19:22:32.953 o.a.o.c.c.RecordingConverter:100 [taskExecutor-2]
> > - [startConversion]
> > org.apache.openmeetings.core.converter.ConversionException: screenMetaData
> > is Null recordingId 568
> > at
> > org.apache.openmeetings.core.converter.RecordingConverter.startConversion(RecordingConverter.java:58)
> > at
> > org.apache.openmeetings.core.remote.StreamProcessor.lambda$startConvertion$10(StreamProcessor.java:439)
> > at
> > java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1128)
> > at
> > java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:628)
> > at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:829)
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:32.964 o.a.o.d.d.r.PollDao:98 [Thread-1176] -  ::
> > getArchived :: 241
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:33.182 o.a.o.d.d.r.PollDao:104 [Thread-1178] -  ::
> > hasPoll :: 241
> > DEBUG 09-17 19:22:33.183 o.a.o.d.d.r.PollDao:98 [Thread-1178] -  ::
> > getArchived :: 241
> > 
> > Is it that I need to change the FACL of the dir to be owned by a different
> > user/group? or is there something else I'm missing here?
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 5:14 PM [email protected] 
> > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Sry that won't be all of the stack trace. There must be some exception /
> > > error before that.
> > >
> > > There is also a way to look at the error in the UI I think. I think there
> > > is an icon to see the commands it tried to execute and any errors with it.
> > > Maybe have a look at that to read all commands until you see the
> > > initial/first error in this processing chain.
> > >
> > > The location exists, I can see the webm files now that our Server team
> > >> created the NFS mount for me.
> > >
> > > That is just half the job. You also need to tell OpenMeetings the new
> > > location of your shared files/drive. Otherwise it assumes it is relative 
> > > to
> > > the path of OpenMeetings base installation. You achieve that by either:
> > > A) Mount the same shared drive replacing the default "data" folder in
> > > $OPENMEETINGS_HOME/webapps/openmeetings/data
> > > or better:
> > > B) Point OpenMeetings Data directory to your shared drive location using
> > > the DATA_DIR parameter
> > > An example how to pass in the DATA_DIR when starting OpenMeetings up is in
> > > the Docker script for the OpenMeetings image:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/openmeetings/openmeetings-docker/blob/master/scripts/om.sh#L43
> > >
> > > (A) can be a bit tricky if you don't know the internal folder structure of
> > > OpenMeetings that well.
> > >
> > > Please keep in mind that changing the data dir means _all_ files are on
> > > the shared drive. Not just recordings. So you may need to move all 
> > > existing
> > > files from the current OpenMeetings data folder to the shared drive. Which
> > > again can be a bit tricky if you happen to mess up the exact folder paths
> > > to match.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Seb
> > >
> > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5
> > > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
> > >
> > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url>
> > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 18 Sept 2021 at 10:57, Jeffry Johnson <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> ERROR 09-17 17:40:56.229 o.a.o.c.c.RecordingConverter:100 
> > >> [taskExecutor-1] - [startConversion]
> > >> org.apache.openmeetings.core.converter.ConversionException: 
> > >> screenMetaData is Null recordingId 567
> > >>  at 
> > >> org.apache.openmeetings.core.converter.RecordingConverter.startConversion(RecordingConverter.java:58)
> > >>  at 
> > >> org.apache.openmeetings.core.remote.StreamProcessor.lambda$startConvertion$10(StreamProcessor.java:439)
> > >>  at 
> > >> java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1128)
> > >>  at 
> > >> java.base/java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:628)
> > >>  at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:829)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Is this what you mean? If I seem inept it's because I only started this 
> > >> job less than 4 months ago with ZERO experience in any of this and have 
> > >> had to learn it all on the fly. The location exists, I can see the webm 
> > >> files now that our Server team created the NFS mount for me.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 4:45 PM [email protected] <
> > >> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Can you post the actual stack trace?
> > >>> What's the file path, have you verified this file really exists or not?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks
> > >>> Seb
> > >>>
> > >>> Sebastian Wagner
> > >>> Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> > >>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > >>> https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5
> > >>> Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
> > >>>
> > >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url>
> > >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, 18 Sept 2021 at 10:29, Jeffry Johnson <
> > >>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Error in the application is file not found. In the logs the error is
> > >>>> that the metadata is null.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2021, 16:14 [email protected] <
> > >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Sry I think you just need to fix your shared drive. I have been
> > >>>>> mounting NFS drives before and I have not seen any such issues.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> What is your error? File not found? Have you checked the path in the
> > >>>>> exception stack trace message and if that resolves to an actual file 
> > >>>>> or not?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks
> > >>>>> Sebastian
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sebastian Wagner
> > >>>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com
> > >>>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > >>>>> https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5
> > >>>>> Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url>
> > >>>>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Sat, 18 Sept 2021 at 10:04, Jeffry Johnson <
> > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> We discovered we had an issue with recordings and I believe it's
> > >>>>>> because we separated our media server and om server for stability. I 
> > >>>>>> had an
> > >>>>>> nfs mounted share created and now we are seeing the webm files.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The issue now is, I believe, that the prices to convert the recording
> > >>>>>> is being kicked off before the file is seen by om in the data 
> > >>>>>> directory.
> > >>>>>> Has this been encountered before? Should we put in a delay in the
> > >>>>>> conversion function? If so, where would be the best place to put 
> > >>>>>> that delay
> > >>>>>> in?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> 
> 
> -- 
> Alvaro


-- 
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