Hi

1. Yes, Shale does not depend on Clay in any way - Actually it is almost true 
the other way around too, bar some Shale utility function that is uses.
2. One of the greatest advantages is that Clay supports the OO paradigm with 
inheritance, where Facelets only supports composition.

You seem to have some misconception here. Shale is a framework on top of ANY 
JSF implementation, much like Struts is a framework on top of JSP/Servlets. 
Clay works just as well with MyFaces as it does with Sun's JSF reference 
implementation

I have tested and used both, and finally landed on Clay due to 2.

Hermod

-----Original Message-----
From: Randahl Fink Isaksen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Shale and facelets vs. Shale and Clay


Has anyone got any impressions of the two different combinations shale + 
facelets and shale + clay? In particular I was wondering:

1. Is shale *completely* separated from clay so that using facelets 
instead of clay does not break anything?
2. Has clay got any advantages over facelets when used with shale 
because clay was built for shale whereas facelets is meant for any JSF 
platform?

Randahl



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