Hi Well nothing comes for free. However, this will change when the worlds turn jdk1.5 in full. Then annotations will take over for much of what we today see in xml files. I might be biased here, but I do not think that Clay is more complex with regards to configuration than say Spring which everybody is hailing. Hermod
-----Original Message----- From: Randahl Fink Isaksen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Shale and facelets vs. Shale and Clay My short tour of Clay documentation looks as if Clay is more heavy when it comes to declarations. It looks to me as if Facelets has much more default behavior built in, and that Clay requires you to write more XML to declare more about what you want to do (please correct me if I am wrong). Randahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi As far as I am concerned, Clay can do whatever Facelets can do and then some. Hermod -----Original Message----- From: Randahl Fink Isaksen [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Shale and facelets vs. Shale and Clay Has anyone seen a comparison chart on the net somewhere? I have been googling for some more information about what clay can and cannot do in comparison to what facelets can and cannot do. I have been testing facelets for some time now, but I would like to find out if it is worth the effort to have a go at clay as well. I feel certain we will be using Shale, so the question is what support technology we will combine Shale with... Facelets or Clay. Randahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi 1. Yes, Shale does not depend on Clay in any way - Actually it is almost true the other way around too, bar some Shale utility function that is uses. 2. One of the greatest advantages is that Clay supports the OO paradigm with inheritance, where Facelets only supports composition. You seem to have some misconception here. Shale is a framework on top of ANY JSF implementation, much like Struts is a framework on top of JSP/Servlets. Clay works just as well with MyFaces as it does with Sun's JSF reference implementation I have tested and used both, and finally landed on Clay due to 2. Hermod -----Original Message----- From: Randahl Fink Isaksen [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Shale and facelets vs. Shale and Clay Has anyone got any impressions of the two different combinations shale + facelets and shale + clay? In particular I was wondering: 1. Is shale *completely* separated from clay so that using facelets instead of clay does not break anything? 2. Has clay got any advantages over facelets when used with shale because clay was built for shale whereas facelets is meant for any JSF platform? Randahl * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email with attachments is solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. Please also be aware that DnB NOR cannot accept any payment orders or other legally binding correspondence with customers as a part of an email. This email message has been virus checked by the anti virus programs used in the DnB NOR Group. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
