Have any of you guys read Jakarta Struts Live by Hightower?  Its
available for free here in pdf form:
http://www.theserverside.com/books/sourcebeat/JakartaStrutsLive/index.tss

Has a good tutorial (holy crap i just sneezed and shook my entire desk
causing the cd case to fall off my monitor) chapter that gets you up
and running fast.  Although I noticed a typo in his code that wouldnt
let me compile until i fixed.

-joe

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:16:08 -0700 (PDT), Woodchuck
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> imo this is true, a beginner can build a simple web app using Struts
> (without any prior servlet experience)
> 
> i am living proof, as i started with Struts directly.
> 
> HOWEVER, because real-world apps are never basic/simple, and because
> Struts is really a facade on top of the java-based web app paradigm, i
> struggled through building apps..
> 
> knowing how to build and make a java-based web app WITHOUT using Struts
> helps A TONNE (sp?) in making Struts apps... but the reverse is NOT
> true
> 
> Denis, take this as a learning step 'missed' that should have been done
> before learning Struts.  i wish i had.  i had NO understanding of
> anything, no basic understanding of the stateless web model, didn't
> know what the heck POST/GET was, didn't know all this fundamental
> stuff, everything worked mysteriously...
> 
> because sooner or later, you will run into a situation that you can't
> quite figure how to do it in Struts, and necessitates the need to use
> 'old school' methods like request.getParameter(), or whatever.
> 
> Struts is great, but it also hides a lot of plumbing that if you're not
> aware, can make life difficult to understand/accomplish what you need
> to do
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Michael McGrady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > At 12:57 PM 8/10/2004, you wrote:
> > >Yes, Struts is based on Servlets, but you don't have to know
> > >anything about Servlets to make a useful Struts webapp.
> >
> > I wonder if this is true.  I cannot imagine that it could be.  Maybe
> > it
> > is.  I am beginning to think so.  ///;-)
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
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