Thanks for reviewing that thread, Frank. I really didn't want to read all those posts. :)


On 01/06/05 23:53 Frank W. Zammetti wrote:
Wow, so *this* is what it's like being the parent of Rosemary's baby!

I wonder if there has ever been a more OT thread?

Allow me to summarize all the salient points, and perhaps this thread can die peacefully...

(1) Patterns are good, but don't cram'em in everywhere you have any problem to solve. And if you DO feel the need to cram'em in everywhere, I can suggest one other place you should be cramming them.

(2) OOP is great, but don't give me a 500-class hierarchy to walk. I can comprehend the geometry of a tesseract, but not some of the convoluted messes some people spew out just because they read the terms inheritance, polymorphism, composition and overloading in some "Teach Yourself To Take Someone's Job That Actual Knows Their Ass From Their Elbow In 24 Hours" books.

(2a) Don't give me 5 classes with 5,000 lines of code a piece either! Your someone that would use a damned goto if it was implemented!

(3) If you never did Assembly, you suck (Laugh, damn it! That's a joke! Ooooooorrrr is it??)

(4) IDEs are fine, but if you can't do yourself what those 3 buttons you just clicked did for you, get outta my shop. Look, I use a lathe rather than widdle the decorative legs on my kitchen chairs, but the point is I COULD widdle them if I wanted to. Using modern development tools is much like that.

(4a) If you can't debug your own damned code without a bouncing ball leading you through line-by-line, you have no business writing that code in the first place. I'm not suggesting you HAVE to put a System.out after each line of code, but if your relying on the IDE to hold your hand to understand what's going on in your own code, hit yourself with a hammer, please.

(5) Much like the Red Sox until their World Series win, LISP proponents are never going to stop whining about how great their language of choice is until it's king of the hill. In other words, they're never going to stop whining.

(6) C/C++ creates unmaintainable nightmare code. If you suck at it. Same for Java. Same for LISP. Same for Pascal. Same for ADA. Same for f'ing BASIC. Anyone see a pattern here?!? (Let me be the first to name it: it's Frank Zammetti's "ProgrammersSuckNotLanguages" pattern).

(7) The Timex Sinclait 1000/ZX81 is the PC we should all have on our desktops. If you want to "multitask", buy two.

(8) The German version of Outlook is stupid because to us Americans it looks like everyone is talking about Root Beer all the time (Review the thread... review the thread...)

(9) Nothing is complex.  There's your Zen moment for the day.

(10) Corollary to #9: Everything is complex.  Buddhist moment for the day.

(Zen. Buddhist. Zen-Buddhist. I admit, I don't know what I'm talking about!)

(11) Most of you apparently went to school in the Alps because it seems to have snowed a lot and been very uneven ground. And you did funny things with news periodicals.

(12) Struts 1.3 uses the CoR pattern. Or maybe it's the IoC pattern. Or maybe it's the RTFM pattern. Could be the WtF pattern. No one knows. (That's another joke... geez, if I have to tell you that I'm really not doing a good job, am I?!?)

(13) Wednesday is the new Friday apparently.

(14) C is such a lousy language that NOBODY would EVER use it. Sorry Linus, I guess that whole kernel thing of yours was a big mistake. Ditto for Windows. Ditto for Halo. Ditto for <insert your favorite COTS piece of software here more than likely>. C++ is C with MORE chances to blow your foot off. Again, if you suck. Conclusion: everything should be written in Logo. I dare say no one has ever written a buggy, insecure piece of software in Logo. Better Logo than actually knowing what your doing. God forbid.

(15) Everyone has an opinion, No one is afraid to use it. This, interestingly enough, is the exact opposite of nuclear weapons: few have them, everyone is afraid to use them!

(16) If you ever have a philosophy final where the assignment is simply to prove that the chair in the middle of the room exists, write "What chair??" in the middle of the paper, hand it in and walk out. Rejoice in your 5-seconds A+.

Ok, I'm done. I got a kid bugging me to play Area 51. Time to get my butt kicked.

Frank


Rahul Akolkar wrote:

Allow me to define a new marker (Way, ) times 3 OT. I have left OT in
for existing filters.

-Rahul

P.S.- 1) I suspect this is how DJ went to programming school [
http://www.bedlam.syol.com/ascendin.jpg ]*
2) You can convince the peasant Leon, given gas prices [
http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/images/v22/i4/p53_tractor.jpg
]*

*[All images copyright respective websites ]

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