Sheesh man, I'm not calling for a ban on anyone, but give Niall a break. Niall 
is one of the most helpful people I've ever met online. Mark comes in here and 
says "Struts is dead" and calls everyone faggots, etc., ad nauseum. He might 
behave that way on many lists, but all of us who don't know him don't know 
that, and we're not used to it. It doesn't bother me what people say in 
general, but if it bothers Niall, and Joe, then suddenly it bothers me too. 
These guys work too hard -- for us (at least partially for us). This list is 
supposed to be about volunteering -- providing support for Struts. If I was a 
new user and I walked into this list yesterday, I'd be saying to myself, how 
can Struts really be any good (or worth it) if this is what it's like to hang 
out in the community? The committers don't deserve that. It's just a matter of 
showing respect for others. I wouldn't come into your house and purposely grind 
mud into your carpet. This is not the Internet at-large, this is the Apache 
Struts-user list.

Independent thought and trolling aren't the same in my opinion. I'm still not 
for a ban on anyone, but if the committers (who do all the work) are bothered, 
whose side are you on? How sucky would this list *really* be if those guys (and 
all the other guys and gals who volunteer help every day) went away, and left 
us with nothing but a mail version of IRC?

Erik


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Meadors <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Jun 30, 2005 12:33 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List <user@struts.apache.org>, 
        Brandon Goodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unacceptable Behaviour of Mark Galbreath @ elections.state.md.us

Well, IMO, the funny part of them is that 50% are accurate and valid. 

So, do we now ban people whose opinions do not match ours because they
are "disruptive"?

Great way to build up the community Niall - ban independent thought.

Larry


On 6/30/05, Brandon Goodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i find this thread massively humorous. Can someone collect more of
> marks quotes. I was crying with laughter while i read them :)
> 
> Brandon
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> On 6/30/05, Mark Galbreath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Carlos, this sounds like a threat.  That is REALLY intolerable, u obtuse 
> > little shmuck.
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> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 08:50:47PM -0700, Carlos Duque wrote:
> > } Actually, I wonder just how happy the State of Maryland would be know the
> > } amount of time this fellow expends pontificating on topics far removed
> > } from any work for the Department of Elections.
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