I believe JSF will kill Struts in 2 years...

--- Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The lines with Struts are in fact less, because you don't have to code
> the framework.
> 
> On 7/1/05, John Henry Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Rick, you are right that you can write struts using very basic text editor.
> > 
> > My consideation is based on the cost of software development.
> > 
> > Let's say for the same problem that you tried to solve: before your code 
> > was 1000 lines. Now
> in struts, your code are 1500 lines (remember those setters and getters and 
> configuration
> files.)
> > 
> > Assume you use basic text editor, the time you finish your project is 1.5 
> > times than before.
> > 
> > Now if this transfer to many projects, the budget you finish those projects 
> > will be 1.5 times
> as before.
> > 
> > Suppose your department used to spend 10 million dollars a year, now you 
> > need 15 million
> dollars to do the same work.
> > 
> > So good GUIs to automate repeatable codes are neccessary to cut those 5 
> > million dollars.
> > 
> > Jack H. Xu
> > Technology columnist and editor
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> > 
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: "Rick Reumann"
> >   To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
> >   Subject: Re: Struts vs .NET???
> >   Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 15:35:31 -0400
> > 
> >   >
> >   > John Henry Xu wrote the following on 6/30/2005 11:49 PM:
> >   >
> >   > > struts can fit into J2EE structure and it is only part of it. And
> >   in
> >   > > my opinion, you better use some GUI tools to develop struts
> >   > > application, otherwise you spend lots of time on getters and
> >   setters.
> >   >
> >   > Well even many of the most basic editors will make get/set methods,
> >   > so I wouldn't say you need a GUI Tool at all for coding Struts
> >   > apps. I happen to use IDEA and jEdit, mostly because I'm used to
> >   > using them. (Yea I know Eclipse is good also..bla bla.. everyone
> >   > just use what you like.. emacs, vim, pico, chalkboard, whatever:)
> >   > It's just very misleading to state that you need GUI tools to
> >   > create Struts apps.
> >   >
> >   > -- Rick
> >   >
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