What is your problem with this thread, Mark.  Why can you just not STAND it
if the people who are talking talk?  Why do you want them to be SILENT?  You
talk about other people soiling, smearing, etc., and you are one of the
worse offenders.  Jonathon comes on here and makes a few legitimate points
and you start going ballistic.  What the hell is wrong with you?  What dog
do you have in the hunt?  Or, are you just supposed to be the person to tell
other people when to stop.  You try to do a +1000 but, like the rest of us,
you only have a +1 at best.  This is what community here is really about and
I for one am happy to see that not everyone is afraid to talk about what
really happens on the list versus what you and others like you perpetrate.
I would personally like to thank Jonathon for coming by.  His presence has
already led to improvements in the website.  Do you have anything you would
like to say other than you want other people to stop talking?

On 3/25/06, Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Look.. You've been invited to post your thoughts about the way that
> apache do stuff, to a more appropiate audience than a bunch of
> half-wit struts users like me..
>
> I was using "smear" more in the context of "to soil"
>
> You might have a point, you might not, you could be the next pope for
> all i care.. Let the thread die.. What do you want? Everyone to say..
> Yes "jonathon you're correct", "freemarker is the best because you're
> involved and it employs a more open policy in respect to commit
> privledges" .. What do you want people to say?
>
> Okay,.. You're my hero!! Jonathan is king!!! Anything else? I
> surrender, I'll say whatever you want, your insesent ascii diarrhea
> has beaten us all into submission!!!! Anything else you want me to say
> to stop this thread just say!!! I'll do whatever you want!!! Please
> just tell me what i can do..
>
> Mark
>
> On 3/25/06, Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Mark Lowe wrote:
> > > May I +1000 what steve said, I'm all for a bit of digression, but this
> > > thread has narrowed the sematic gap between "to post" and "to smear"..
> >
> > What smear? Do you mean "smear" as in "slander"? Could you be more
> > explicit about this? I think you ought to clarify what you mean by that
> > statement or retract it.
> >
> > I asked Steve Raeburn the same question I have asked before. The
> > question is as follows:
> >
> > "If your project management practices are so great, how come Struts
> > development stagnated to such an extent?"
> >
> > The stagnation is not a matter of legitimate debate now. They have had
> > to bring in Webwork, a competing project developed outside of ASF, so
> > that they could have something more up-to-date to offer under the
> > "Struts" brand-name.
> >
> > Why should I not ask that question? Because these people find it
> > embarassing? Well, that's tough cookies, eh? Is that what you're talking
> > about when you say a "smear"? I'm satisfied that this is a completely
> > fair question. It's also a tough question, but it's 100% fair and it's
> > 100% on-topic to this discussion.
> >
> > I don't see any reason for these people to refuse to answer it. It's a
> > natural question when people insist that their approach to project
> > management is beyond reproach.
> >
> > Jonathan Revusky
> > --
> > lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/
> >
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