I disagree. From this discussion I have to assume that Dion knows he is not in a position to argue this point and the point is pretty fundamental in the community. I tried being soft on that but he just returns expecting to be hand fed. I am not going to do it.
On 3/30/06, Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dakota Jack wrote: > > Sigh ...... Dion, I am sorry, but I am not going to stoop this > low. Come > > back later when you are grown up in this business. I hate to do this > but I > > am not going to start at 101 with you. Someone else can. I am not > going > > to. You DON'T have a clue about these issues and don't even realize > that > > you are revealing that in spades. Please do yourself a favor and bow > out > > gracefully. > > Dakota, if you think that Dion doesn't understand some particular issue, > just explain it to him politely. There is no need to question his > competence or intelligence or any of that. There are lots of things I > don't know and lots of things you don't know and so on. Basically, I > feel obliged to point out that this is not helpful at all. > > Stepping back a sec, it's understandable that, in the overall context, > one can get hot under the collar. I have been on the receiving end of an > extraordinary amount of abuse here, but there is no need to take out > your frustrations on somebody who, AFAICS, has been pretty reasonable > and spoken in good faith. (i.e. keep your eye on the ball... ;-)) > > Jonathan Revusky > -- > lead developer, FreeMarker project, http://freemarker.org/ > > > > > On 3/29/06, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>On 3/30/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>>Dion, you are obviously really green. Please read a bit and then come > >>>back. Do you have any idea about architecture and design and testing > >>>issues? > >> > >> > >>Yes, I do. Do you? > >> > >>So, the use of StrutsTestCase has an effect on architecture and design? > >>Are you saying you can't test your code using it? I seem to do it > >>reasonably > >>easily. > >> > >>On 3/29/06, Dion Gillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>>>On 3/30/06, Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>God, Joe! If you don't know what is wrong with Struts 1.x then > >> > >>stand > >> > >>>>>aside. For one, try writing decent tests. Do you test your code? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>So StrutsTestCase doesn't help you? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>On 3/29/06, Joe Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>>Jonathon, > >>>>>> > >>>>>>You didn't answer Dion's question. You merely summarized that > >> > >>Struts > >> > >>>>and > >>>> > >>>>>>WebWork merged. > >>>>>>You did not state any technical reasons that Struts 1.x is wrong. > >>>>>>The question was "Do you have a list of > >>>>>>things that are technically wrong with Struts 1.x?" > >>>>>> > >>>>>>You complain that people don't answer questions on this list and > >>> > >>>look > >>> > >>>>>what > >>>>> > >>>>>>you've just done. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>So do you have an answer? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>You should not use me as some kind of scapegoat to take out your > >>>>>>>frustrations on. Take this stuff up with the Struts PMC, not > >>>>>>>with me. >Jonathan Revusky > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Very unbecoming of you Jon. Stop trying to change the subject and > >>>> > >>>>answer > >>>> > >>>>>>the question.The question is: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>"Do you have a list of things that are technically wrong with > >> > >>Struts > >> > >>>>1.x > >>>> > >>>>>?" > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>> > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>>>>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its > >>>> > >>>>back." > >>>> > >>>>>~Dakota Jack~ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>http://www.multitask.com.au/people/dion/ > >>>>Chuck Norris sleeps with a night light. Not because Chuck Norris is > >>> > >>>afraid > >>> > >>>>of the dark, but because the dark is afraid of Chuck Norris > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>"You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its > >> > >>back." > >> > >>>~Dakota Jack~ > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>http://www.multitask.com.au/people/dion/ > >>Chuck Norris sleeps with a night light. Not because Chuck Norris is > afraid > >>of the dark, but because the dark is afraid of Chuck Norris > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its > back." > > ~Dakota Jack~ > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- "You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it float on its back." ~Dakota Jack~
