Sadly, I have kids so I either have no time for video games or can¹t get access to the gear. My past time is daydreaming about having a past time.
As for testing, and documentation these tasks are as valid as any others, but again the problem from my perspective, and I don¹t mean that in a negative way, is finding which tasks need to be done. I have so much trouble navigating through the dev management part of the site. I guess what I was trying to say is that if the outstanding items could be broken down in manageable tasks, I¹d find it much less intimidating to take them on. Z. > > I would say the biggest help we can get right now is on the > documentation and get help testing releases. One thing I have always > seems lacking in the struts community, is support from users to help > testing releases *before* they are actually released. > > As for coordinating effort, I am not sure it would work (besides the > usual.."hey I am working on this cool X thing.." email in dev@), I > think that working as volunteers doesn't fit well with commitment > because we also have other priorities, you know, like playing video > games and stuff :) > > musachy > > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Zoran > Avtarovski<zo...@sparecreative.com> wrote: >> > I have to agree. Our touch with the JSF Oracle was both painful and >> > fruitless and lead us to truly appreciate how bad things could be. >> > >> > Having said that, I think Martin has raised some points about how S2 can be >> > improved and I think S2 is at a stage where there needs to be some general >> > discussion on where all interested parties (devs and users) think the >> > framework should be heading and where there are deficiencies. >> > >> > I for one think, that with S2¹s improved plugin architecture, there is a >> > huge amount of scope in what can be achieved. We need a few key people to >> > guide the process. I know my biggest fear is over committing and not having >> > the time to deliver. If there was a centralised coordinator who could >> > organise a second tier of developers, for example, who can help on a >> smaller >> > scale then I believe more of the niche development could be achieved. >> > >> > Z. >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Andrey Rogov<strut...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>> > I agree with Matt Rable that JSF programming based on RAD methods >>>>> makes us >>>>> >>> > transition to JSF. >>> >> >>> >> I think many, many people have crossed that bridge and came back in >>> >> rush after a while. >>> >> >>> >> musachy >> > >> > >> > > >