Sadly, I have kids so I either have no time for video games or can¹t get
access to the gear. My past time is daydreaming about having a past time.

As for testing, and documentation these tasks are as valid as any others,
but again the problem from my perspective, and I don¹t mean that in a
negative way, is finding which tasks need to be done. I have so much trouble
navigating through the dev management part of the site. I guess what I was
trying to say is that if the outstanding items could be broken down in
manageable tasks, I¹d find it much less intimidating to take them on.

Z.
> 
> I would say the biggest help we can get right now is on the
> documentation and get help testing releases. One thing I have always
> seems lacking in the struts community, is support from users to help
> testing releases *before* they are actually released.
> 
> As for coordinating effort, I am not sure it would work (besides the
> usual.."hey I am working on this cool X thing.." email in dev@), I
> think that working as volunteers doesn't fit well with commitment
> because we also have other priorities, you know, like playing video
> games and stuff :)
> 
> musachy
> 
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Zoran
> Avtarovski<zo...@sparecreative.com> wrote:
>> > I have to agree. Our touch with the JSF Oracle was both painful and
>> > fruitless and lead us to truly appreciate how bad things could be.
>> >
>> > Having said that, I think Martin has raised some points about how S2 can be
>> > improved and I think S2 is at a stage where there needs to be some general
>> > discussion on where all interested parties (devs and users)  think the
>> > framework should be heading and where there are deficiencies.
>> >
>> > I for one think, that with S2¹s improved plugin architecture, there is a
>> > huge amount of scope in what can be achieved. We need a few key people to
>> > guide the process. I know my biggest fear is over committing and not having
>> > the time to deliver. If there was a centralised coordinator who could
>> > organise a second tier of developers, for example, who can help on a
>> smaller
>> > scale then I believe more of the niche development could be achieved.
>> >
>> > Z.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Andrey Rogov<strut...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>> > I agree with Matt Rable that JSF programming based on RAD methods
>>>>> makes us
>>>>> >>> > transition to JSF.
>>> >>
>>> >> I think many, many people have crossed that bridge and came back in
>>> >> rush after a while.
>>> >>
>>> >> musachy
>> >
>> >
>> >
> 
> 


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