-1 all same color. I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to remove Apache .... But I still like it the way it is
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <[email protected]> wrote: > > But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to read > about it? > >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit <[email protected]> wrote: >> It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as compared >> to those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet. I feel that it >> adds quite a bit of value to Trafodion. >> >> Rohit >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Qifan Chen <[email protected]> >> Date: 02/12/2016 8:34 AM (GMT-06:00) >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: Gunnar Tapper <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >> >> I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon >> and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached. >> >> I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word >> APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK). >> >> With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the "power >> by Apache" logo, see URL here, without the duplication of "Apache". >> >> It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus. >> >> Thanks --Qifan >> >>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <[email protected]> wrote: >>> -1 >>> >>> Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist. >>> >>> Rohit >>> >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Gunnar Tapper <[email protected]> >>> Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00) >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. >>> >>> A simple change: >>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gunnar >>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Option 4!! >>>> >>>> Trina >>>> >>>>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would >>>>> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out >>>>> and I'm not fond of it overall... >>>>> >>>>> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at >>>>> all.... >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Ken! >>>>> >>>>> -Carol P. >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>> Twitter: @CarolP222 >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. >>>>>>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the >>>>>>> right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more >>>>>>> professional (perhaps also in lower case). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Weishiun >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), >>>>>>> but with the placement of option 6. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That said, either one is fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Eric Owhadi [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 option 4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Anuradha Hegde [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 option 4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Ken Holt [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked >>>>>>> that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Option 4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Option 6 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited >>>>>>> field testing! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Comments on 4 & 6? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, Ken >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >>>>>>> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a >>>>>>> different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the >>>>>>> dragon’s colors as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Hans Zeller [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with >>>>>>> another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures >>>>>>> on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still >>>>>>> not my favorite). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hans >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is >>>>>>> a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of >>>>>>> quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on >>>>>>> something. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon >>>>>>> and post another version of that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, Ken >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 on dragon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it >>>>>>> separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda >>>>>>> did)? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is >>>>>>> always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the >>>>>>> cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the >>>>>>> dragon carries. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> St.Ack >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Carol P. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Twitter: @CarolP222 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 for Dragon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the >>>>>>> writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and >>>>>>> complicated with the cursive. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Amanda Moran [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +10 for dragon! Very cute! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else >>>>>>> likes... I give it a +0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements >>>>>>> really well the yellow elephant! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -clr >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s >>>>>>> too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t >>>>>>> have that issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Ken Holt [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Logo Proposal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Apache Trafodion needs a logo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite >>>>>>> some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days >>>>>>> of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised >>>>>>> a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and >>>>>>> that was a simple cute dragon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose >>>>>>> that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dragon standalone - >>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Trafodion name & dragon - >>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s >>>>>>> look too similar. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thoughts? Should we vote on this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, Ken >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Amanda Moran >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Gunnar >>>>>> If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Gunnar >>> If you think you can you can, if you think you can't you're right. >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards, --Qifan > > > > -- > Regards, --Qifan >
