Hi Arek,

The ortholog queries within a single dataset seem limiting, one of the
users query is for example:

<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><!DOCTYPE Query><Query
 virtualSchemaName = 'default' uniqueRows = '1' count = '0'
datasetConfigVersion = '0.6' header='1' requestid= "biomaRt"> <Dataset name
= 'hsapiens_gene_ensembl'><Attribute name = 'hgnc_symbol'/><Attribute name
= 'chromosome_name'/><Attribute name = 'start_position'/><Attribute name =
'mmusculus_homolog_chromosome'/><Attribute name =
'mmusculus_homolog_chrom_start'/><Filter name = 'hgnc_symbol' value =
'TP53' /></Dataset></Query>

which does not work as the webservice returns the following error:

Query ERROR: caught BioMart::Exception::Usage: Attributes from multiple
attribute pages are not allowed

Cheers,
Steffen

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Arek Kasprzyk <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Steffen,
> ok, that explains it. You are using explicit linking that it seems to be
> broken at the moment. (I am waiting for Rhoda and/or Thomas comments)
>
> However, just to let you know that simple orthologue queries can be also
> achieved (faster as well) through a single dataset as follows:
>
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> <!DOCTYPE Query>
> <Query  virtualSchemaName = "default" formatter = "TSV" header = "0" 
> uniqueRows = "0" count = "" datasetConfigVersion = "0.6" >
>                       
>       <Dataset name = "hsapiens_gene_ensembl" interface = "default" >
>               <Filter name = "with_homolog_mmus" excluded = "0"/>
>               <Attribute name = "ensembl_gene_id" />
>               <Attribute name = "ensembl_transcript_id" />
>               <Attribute name = "mmusculus_homolog_ensembl_gene" />
>               <Attribute name = "drerio_homolog_ensembl_gene" />
>       </Dataset>
> </Query>
>
>
>
> a
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Steffen Durinck <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Arek,
>>
>> The R example Kathleen reported is similar though, it translates to:
>>
>> <?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><!DOCTYPE Query><Query
>>  virtualSchemaName = 'default' uniqueRows = '1' count = '0'
>> datasetConfigVersion = '0.6' header='1' requestid= "biomaRt"> <Dataset name
>> = 'hsapiens_gene_ensembl'><Attribute name = 'external_gene_id'/><Filter
>> name = 'wikigene_name' value = 'TP53' /></Dataset><Dataset name =
>> 'drerio_gene_ensembl' ><Attribute name = 'hgnc_symbol'/></Dataset></Query>
>>
>> in XML
>>
>> Steffen
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Arek Kasprzyk 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Steffen and Katleen,
>>>
>>> Indeed your example is not working, although the mechanism for those two
>>> queries is rather different.
>>> It appears that explicit linking with a mouse dataset produces no
>>> results regardless of the query (The homologue queries in Katleen's
>>> examples are not affected bc they are part of the human dataset).
>>>
>>> Rhoda, Thomas: could you help us here a bit? It appears that there maybe
>>> a problem on Ensembl side?
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> a
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Steffen Durinck <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Arek,
>>>>
>>>> I have other users reporting the same issue,  here is an example XML
>>>> query that doesn't return a result:
>>>>
>>>> <?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><!DOCTYPE Query><Query
>>>>  virtualSchemaName = 'default' uniqueRows = '1' count = '0'
>>>> datasetConfigVersion = '0.6' header='1' requestid= "biomaRt"> <Dataset name
>>>> = 'hsapiens_gene_ensembl'><Attribute name = 'hgnc_symbol'/><Attribute name
>>>> = 'chromosome_name'/><Attribute name = 'start_position'/><Filter name =
>>>> 'hgnc_symbol' value = 'TP53' /></Dataset><Dataset name =
>>>> 'mmusculus_gene_ensembl' ><Attribute name = 'chromosome_name'/><Attribute
>>>> name = 'start_position'/></Dataset></Query>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does this work for you?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Steffen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Arek Kasprzyk <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Katleen,
>>>>> I am cc'ing Steffen Durinck who is an expert on the R interface and
>>>>> hopefully will be able to help you with that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Katleen De Preter <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Arek,****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your reply. However, it is still not working (via R): did
>>>>>> something change in the structure of the database, so that the following 
>>>>>> R
>>>>>> script doesn’t work anymore?****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> library(biomaRt)****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> human<-useMart("ensembl","hsapiens_gene_ensembl")   #define human
>>>>>> database, it works****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> zebrafish<-useMart("ensembl","drerio_gene_ensembl")   #define
>>>>>> zebrafish database, it works****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> homolog.1<-getLDS(attributes=c("external_gene_id"),filters ="
>>>>>> wikigene_name",values =my.list1,mart=human,****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>                   attributesL=c("hgnc_symbol"),martL=zebrafish)   #
>>>>>> this last code line gives no results****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or can you help me how to configure the online biomart request in
>>>>>> order to get human gene symbols vs zebrafish gene symbols (and not
>>>>>> only ensembl IDs).****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Katleen De Preter****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Arek Kasprzyk [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> *Sent:* dinsdag 27 november 2012 11:52
>>>>>> *To:* Katleen De Preter
>>>>>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [BioMart Users] General query: ortholog searches****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Katleen,****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have recently updated the server to Ensembl 69, perhaps this was
>>>>>> just a temporary glitch****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The following query :
>>>>>> http://www.biomart.org/biomart/martview/1456454c60d2a4397ffb57525b5acbb3
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> produces the output:****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ensembl Gene ID       Ensembl Transcript ID           Zebra Finch
>>>>>> Ensembl Gene ID          Mouse Ensembl Gene ID****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ENSG00000259662   ENST00000539570   ENSTGUG00000003187
>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000050503****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ENSG00000258865   ENST00000510508   ENSTGUG00000012784
>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000075707****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ENSG00000258664   ENST00000553856               ENSMUSG00000079252***
>>>>>> *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ENSG00000258518   ENST00000483851   ENSTGUG00000011221
>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000027833****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ENSG00000259741   ENST00000558098   ENSTGUG00000000764
>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000021156****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ENSG00000259741   ENST00000558098   ENSTGUG00000017137
>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000021156****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ENSG00000265969   ENST00000292095   ENSTGUG00000000184
>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000032086****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ENSG00000262355   ENST00000305831   ENSTGUG00000014163
>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000021838****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ENSG00000262355   ENST00000305831   ENSTGUG00000013086
>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000021838****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ENSG00000198888   ENST00000361390   ENSTGUG00000018737
>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000064341****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> similarly the 08 server: ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://central.biomart.org/martwizard/#!/Genome?mart=Ensembl+Genes+69+(WTSI%2C+UK)&step=4&attributes=homologs_ensembl_gene_id%2Cmouse_ensembl_gene%2Cinter_paralog_zebrafish_ensembl_gene&homolog_filters%5B%5D=with_mmusculus_homolog&homolog_filters%5B%5D=only&homolog_filters%5B%5D=Homolog+filters+Orthologous+Mouse+Genes<http://central.biomart.org/martwizard/#!/Genome?mart=Ensembl+Genes+69+(WTSI%2C+UK)&step=4&attributes=homologs_ensembl_gene_id%2Cmouse_ensembl_gene%2Cinter_paralog_zebrafish_ensembl_gene&homolog_filters%5B%5D=with_mmusculus_homolog&homolog_filters%5B%5D=only&homolog_filters%5B%5D=Homolog+filter>
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Katleen De Preter <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m trying to perform cross-species ortholog searches
>>>>>> (mice-human-zebrafish). However, it seems that this option is currently 
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> working on biomart (website and via R). The same script that previously
>>>>>> worked, is currently not successful. Do you know about this problem?*
>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Katleen De Preter****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dr. ir. Katleen De Preter
>>>>>> Center for Medical Genetics Ghent (CMGG)
>>>>>> Ghent University Hospital
>>>>>> Medical Research Building (MRB),
>>>>>> 2nd floor, room 120.038
>>>>>> De Pintelaan 185,
>>>>>> B-9000 Ghent, Belgium
>>>>>> +32 9 332 5533 (phone) | +32 9 332 6549 (fax)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://medgen.ugent.be
>>>>>> [email protected] ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Arek Kasprzyk, MD, MSc, PhD
>>> BioMart Project Lead
>>> www.biomart.org
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Arek Kasprzyk, MD, MSc, PhD
> BioMart Project Lead
> www.biomart.org
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