Hi Steffen,
yes, you are right, orthologue queries only offer a limited number of
attributes

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On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Steffen Durinck <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Arek,
>
> The ortholog queries within a single dataset seem limiting, one of the
> users query is for example:
>
> <?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><!DOCTYPE Query><Query
>  virtualSchemaName = 'default' uniqueRows = '1' count = '0'
> datasetConfigVersion = '0.6' header='1' requestid= "biomaRt"> <Dataset name
> = 'hsapiens_gene_ensembl'><Attribute name = 'hgnc_symbol'/><Attribute name
> = 'chromosome_name'/><Attribute name = 'start_position'/><Attribute name =
> 'mmusculus_homolog_chromosome'/><Attribute name =
> 'mmusculus_homolog_chrom_start'/><Filter name = 'hgnc_symbol' value =
> 'TP53' /></Dataset></Query>
>
> which does not work as the webservice returns the following error:
>
> Query ERROR: caught BioMart::Exception::Usage: Attributes from multiple
> attribute pages are not allowed
>
> Cheers,
> Steffen
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Arek Kasprzyk <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi Steffen,
>> ok, that explains it. You are using explicit linking that it seems to be
>> broken at the moment. (I am waiting for Rhoda and/or Thomas comments)
>>
>> However, just to let you know that simple orthologue queries can be also
>> achieved (faster as well) through a single dataset as follows:
>>
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
>> <!DOCTYPE Query>
>> <Query  virtualSchemaName = "default" formatter = "TSV" header = "0" 
>> uniqueRows = "0" count = "" datasetConfigVersion = "0.6" >
>>                      
>>      <Dataset name = "hsapiens_gene_ensembl" interface = "default" >
>>              <Filter name = "with_homolog_mmus" excluded = "0"/>
>>              <Attribute name = "ensembl_gene_id" />
>>              <Attribute name = "ensembl_transcript_id" />
>>              <Attribute name = "mmusculus_homolog_ensembl_gene" />
>>              <Attribute name = "drerio_homolog_ensembl_gene" />
>>      </Dataset>
>> </Query>
>>
>>
>>
>> a
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Steffen Durinck <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Arek,
>>>
>>> The R example Kathleen reported is similar though, it translates to:
>>>
>>> <?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><!DOCTYPE Query><Query
>>>  virtualSchemaName = 'default' uniqueRows = '1' count = '0'
>>> datasetConfigVersion = '0.6' header='1' requestid= "biomaRt"> <Dataset name
>>> = 'hsapiens_gene_ensembl'><Attribute name = 'external_gene_id'/><Filter
>>> name = 'wikigene_name' value = 'TP53' /></Dataset><Dataset name =
>>> 'drerio_gene_ensembl' ><Attribute name = 'hgnc_symbol'/></Dataset></Query>
>>>
>>> in XML
>>>
>>> Steffen
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Arek Kasprzyk 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Steffen and Katleen,
>>>>
>>>> Indeed your example is not working, although the mechanism for those
>>>> two queries is rather different.
>>>> It appears that explicit linking with a mouse dataset produces no
>>>> results regardless of the query (The homologue queries in Katleen's
>>>> examples are not affected bc they are part of the human dataset).
>>>>
>>>> Rhoda, Thomas: could you help us here a bit? It appears that there
>>>> maybe a problem on Ensembl side?
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Steffen Durinck <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Arek,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have other users reporting the same issue,  here is an example XML
>>>>> query that doesn't return a result:
>>>>>
>>>>> <?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><!DOCTYPE Query><Query
>>>>>  virtualSchemaName = 'default' uniqueRows = '1' count = '0'
>>>>> datasetConfigVersion = '0.6' header='1' requestid= "biomaRt"> <Dataset 
>>>>> name
>>>>> = 'hsapiens_gene_ensembl'><Attribute name = 'hgnc_symbol'/><Attribute name
>>>>> = 'chromosome_name'/><Attribute name = 'start_position'/><Filter name =
>>>>> 'hgnc_symbol' value = 'TP53' /></Dataset><Dataset name =
>>>>> 'mmusculus_gene_ensembl' ><Attribute name = 'chromosome_name'/><Attribute
>>>>> name = 'start_position'/></Dataset></Query>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Steffen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Arek Kasprzyk <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Katleen,
>>>>>> I am cc'ing Steffen Durinck who is an expert on the R interface and
>>>>>> hopefully will be able to help you with that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Katleen De Preter <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Arek,****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your reply. However, it is still not working (via R): did
>>>>>>> something change in the structure of the database, so that the 
>>>>>>> following R
>>>>>>> script doesn’t work anymore?****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> library(biomaRt)****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> human<-useMart("ensembl","hsapiens_gene_ensembl")   #define human
>>>>>>> database, it works****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> zebrafish<-useMart("ensembl","drerio_gene_ensembl")   #define
>>>>>>> zebrafish database, it works****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> homolog.1<-getLDS(attributes=c("external_gene_id"),filters ="
>>>>>>> wikigene_name",values =my.list1,mart=human,****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                   attributesL=c("hgnc_symbol"),martL=zebrafish)   #
>>>>>>> this last code line gives no results****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or can you help me how to configure the online biomart request in
>>>>>>> order to get human gene symbols vs zebrafish gene symbols (and not
>>>>>>> only ensembl IDs).****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Katleen De Preter****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Arek Kasprzyk [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>> *Sent:* dinsdag 27 november 2012 11:52
>>>>>>> *To:* Katleen De Preter
>>>>>>> *Cc:* [email protected]
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [BioMart Users] General query: ortholog searches****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Katleen,****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have recently updated the server to Ensembl 69, perhaps this was
>>>>>>> just a temporary glitch****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The following query :
>>>>>>> http://www.biomart.org/biomart/martview/1456454c60d2a4397ffb57525b5acbb3
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> produces the output:****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ensembl Gene ID       Ensembl Transcript ID           Zebra Finch
>>>>>>> Ensembl Gene ID          Mouse Ensembl Gene ID****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ENSG00000259662   ENST00000539570   ENSTGUG00000003187
>>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000050503****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ENSG00000258865   ENST00000510508   ENSTGUG00000012784
>>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000075707****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ENSG00000258664   ENST00000553856               ENSMUSG00000079252**
>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ENSG00000258518   ENST00000483851   ENSTGUG00000011221
>>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000027833****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ENSG00000259741   ENST00000558098   ENSTGUG00000000764
>>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000021156****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ENSG00000259741   ENST00000558098   ENSTGUG00000017137
>>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000021156****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ENSG00000265969   ENST00000292095   ENSTGUG00000000184
>>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000032086****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ENSG00000262355   ENST00000305831   ENSTGUG00000014163
>>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000021838****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ENSG00000262355   ENST00000305831   ENSTGUG00000013086
>>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000021838****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ENSG00000198888   ENST00000361390   ENSTGUG00000018737
>>>>>>> ENSMUSG00000064341****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> similarly the 08 server: ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://central.biomart.org/martwizard/#!/Genome?mart=Ensembl+Genes+69+(WTSI%2C+UK)&step=4&attributes=homologs_ensembl_gene_id%2Cmouse_ensembl_gene%2Cinter_paralog_zebrafish_ensembl_gene&homolog_filters%5B%5D=with_mmusculus_homolog&homolog_filters%5B%5D=only&homolog_filters%5B%5D=Homolog+filters+Orthologous+Mouse+Genes<http://central.biomart.org/martwizard/#!/Genome?mart=Ensembl+Genes+69+(WTSI%2C+UK)&step=4&attributes=homologs_ensembl_gene_id%2Cmouse_ensembl_gene%2Cinter_paralog_zebrafish_ensembl_gene&homolog_filters%5B%5D=with_mmusculus_homolog&homolog_filters%5B%5D=only&homolog_filters%5B%5D=Homolog+filter>
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a.****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Katleen De Preter <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m trying to perform cross-species ortholog searches
>>>>>>> (mice-human-zebrafish). However, it seems that this option is currently 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> working on biomart (website and via R). The same script that previously
>>>>>>> worked, is currently not successful. Do you know about this problem?
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Katleen De Preter****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dr. ir. Katleen De Preter
>>>>>>> Center for Medical Genetics Ghent (CMGG)
>>>>>>> Ghent University Hospital
>>>>>>> Medical Research Building (MRB),
>>>>>>> 2nd floor, room 120.038
>>>>>>> De Pintelaan 185,
>>>>>>> B-9000 Ghent, Belgium
>>>>>>> +32 9 332 5533 (phone) | +32 9 332 6549 (fax)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://medgen.ugent.be
>>>>>>> [email protected] ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Arek Kasprzyk, MD, MSc, PhD
>>>> BioMart Project Lead
>>>> www.biomart.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Arek Kasprzyk, MD, MSc, PhD
>> BioMart Project Lead
>> www.biomart.org
>>
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>


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