Hi Guys
I ended updating to 4.19 and updated all SystemVMs and routers
accordingly. DC has just informed me again that there is amplified
DDOS attacks originating from my virtual router and from an IP address
that's assigned to no instance or systemvm but shows via UI its
assigned.
Any ideas what I can try to stop this?
On 2/12/24 21:30, Wei ZHOU wrote:
cloudstack 4.19.0.0 has been released recently, which contains a new
systemvm template. You can upgrade.
-Wei
在 2024年2月12日星期一，Granwille Strauss
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Update:
So since I ran updates for dnsmasq in all system vms, the issue
seems to
be solved. Our DC hasn't complained again. So it seems the vm
templates
need an update?
On 2/9/24 10:29, Jayanth Reddy wrote:
Please capture on 53/UDP as most of the DNS stack uses UDP by
default.
I looked the screenshot, No NAME means that the IP hasn't
undergone STATIC NAT to a VM, which is okay wherein perhaps there
could be port forwards or Load Balancer instead. The VR should
assign the IP on its interface if it is acquired in the network.
If I may ask, how are you concluding that IPs are unassigned
elsewhere, have you performed basic reachability tests? Your case
could be one of the below
1. That IP could be SNAT for that network.
2. Or there was an assignment to one of the VMs previously as
STATIC NAT and later released. Please check your events.
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Subject: Re: DDOS Attacks from my virtual Router
I run version 4.18.1.0 currently, oddly there was an update for
dnsmasq so I applied them to all systemvms. I clean restarted the
guest networks and so far everything seems to be running fine. If
I pick up issues, I will destroy the routers so that cloudstack
can recreate them again.
In the meantime, I am running the tcpdump as recommended in the
vritual router and will keep an eye on it, as mentioned there
seems to be no movement on port 53 so far and I also asked the DC
to provide an update on this after the changes I have applied.
In any case, attached is a screenshot of the IP address that are
allocated but zero VM associated, I checked all of them and these
IPs show up no where. I have no loadbalancers, proxies nothing.
Just simple setup, with two virtual routers, one SSVM and one
Consolevm. The rest are VM instances. I am going to check the git
url you provided and query the DB to see what these are.
On 2/9/24 09:53, Jayanth Reddy wrote:
Hi,
Allocated means that it is assigned somewhere. You'll need to
check the Public IP Address tab. Use the shared GH issue for
exceptional case.
The VR does bind only on the internal network. No, manually
updating packages on VRs and System VMs might produce strange
results. Please provision them again.
Thanks
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Subject: Re: DDOS Attacks from my virtual Router
Hi
Yes, I have Advanced network set up. I am going to check for the
allocated IPs that have zero VMs associated via the DB and see
what I can find. I see more than one that is "allocated" in
different guest networks. However, I would appreciate any clues or
tips, as I have barely touched CS database in my life.
Then, the rvm does not seem to listen on a DNS server via port 53
only dnsmaq, could this not be the issue too? As explained in the
blog I linked earlier? I am currently running a tcpdump for the
day to see what happens so far the dump is not providing any hits,
but keep in mind I did run apt-get update dnsmaq prior and
rebooted the systemvms including router vms.
On 2/9/24 09:23, Wei ZHOU wrote:
+1
it looks like one of the VMs in the isolated network is
compromised.
try to capture the packets of port 53 (tcp/udp) by tcpdump in the
virtual
router, and see what is the source IP of the packets.
-Wei
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Hello,
The VR does process DNS queries, and if you're using cloud-init on
VMs,
the primary nameserver would be your VR IP. VR is usually
configured to
forward the requested DNS queries to upstream servers which is
defined in
the zone settings. So I guess one of the VMs should have gotten
compromised
leading to generating of attack. Usually the VR does SNAT, so the
SNAT or
STATICNAT IP becomes the source on the Internet (unless there is
double NAT
happening)
See if you can check the MAC address of that Public IP from your
uplinks.
I've faced the same issue earlier wherein one VR was holding one
IP but for
whatever reason db was updated as free. See
thishttps://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues/6821. You should
check in DB
for that IP. For me, I was able to get using the API, looked for
routers
and filtered the MAC address for that IP. Happens..
Is it safe for me to assume your zone is "Advanced"?
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Subject: DDOS Attacks from my virtual Router
Hei
My DC has just sent me notice that two of my IP addresses from the
allocated subnets are responsible for amplifying DDOS attacks. One
out of
the two is my virtual router IP address. I was advised to firewall
port 53
or deactivate recursive functions. Can you perhaps provide some in
sight on
how this could be possible?
The second IP address, I see under the guest networks that it is
"Allocated" but I have reviewed all my SystemVMs and all my
virtual
routers, none of them have that IP address assigned. Nor any VM
instance
either. Its assigned to something but I cannot tell what. Is there
a better
way for me to see what server/service uses this IP in Cloudstack,
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