Hello everyone,
Very interesting topic, would have answered earlier if I was not on
holidays (NYC is great BTW ;) )
As a very new cocoon user (less than 3 months) and an early junior
programmer (ending my final study year in august), I think my opinion
has it's place here.
Being a fresh programmer reduce a lot the "already has another way of
thinking" factor and migration issue.
I agree on the lack of documentation on several points :
First of all, information is scattered a bit. You got to know some
google practices to find all you need.
I used cocoon main site, daisy, wiki, Anyware 2003 formation, several
introductions to cocoon, cocoon GT pdf and mailing list. And co-worker
advice.
Knowing google's filetype: or site: parameters was really handy as I
found very decent docs on cocoon. And deprecated ones too ;)
Asking for up-to-date docs on 2.1 is obviously silly with the upcoming
2.2 release, but it would have been great to have GT pdf linked or
integrated.
About overview of cocoon, I may be writing nonsense as MVC is one
implementation of more generic OOP patterns (SOC...), but it was quite
hard for me to clearly see the MVC/PAC-like architecture of
sitemap-FS-java. The overview page talks about XSPs and the FS part
deals a lot with continuations, hiding the advantages of having FS as
control layer. Showing the new user known patterns helps him to
understand faster.
So the first page of the documentation should always be updated and
attractive to the new user (linear reading of the docs...).
The documentation is quite big, but not enough IMHO for such a huge
framework. What I miss the most is some trivial examples on details, I
have to guess or dig in the docs/samples to find the answers.
Ultimately, this leads to questions on the mailing list already
documented (although this creates more answers on google later :) )
Quite messy mail, as was and still is my way of learning Cocoon.
- Baptiste
PS : I'd like to know if something like Raccoon is still worked on !
( http://cocoongt.hippo12.castaserver.com/cocoongt/andrew-savory.pdf and
http://www.andrewsavory.com/blog/archives/000803.html if you wonder what
it is)
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