bart remmerie pisze:
I've been a 'jojo' cocoon user for some years now and a convinced addict.
The learning curve is rather steep, but with nices 'plateaus': repeated steps of steep learning followed by rather easy mass-production.

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Upgrading to a next version has never been a smooth process so far. I'm currently using 2.1.10 and the YourCocoonBasedProject ant scripts from the wiki. One day, I'll shift to 2.2, but so far, trying to set it up out of curiosity has brought me nothing but frustration.

Could you share your experiences? I would like to know what caused the 
frustration.

As a cocoon user, learning yet another framework (Maven) is not what I'm looking for. If is can make development easier, I'm interested to learn, but please explain the benefits & basics to get people going before pushing them into a direction (they didn't ask for in the first place). Or replace the 'easy to use' by 'easy to use, ... if you are an experienced user of spring, maven and other related frameworks like hibernate, ...)

Even I'm Cocoon developer I don't think about myself like a Maven or Spring guru. After switching to Maven 2.0.6 I'm really happy with it because most of annoying bugs has been resolved and working with Maven is really straightforward. Thanks to archetypes and quite good Cocoon's documentation on this topic (kudos to Reinhard) you really don't need to know Maven inside out.

If cocoon has the ambition to be used, please pay attention to what the (potential) user wants (and documentation might be just one of the priorities).

Our aim is to pay the attention but it's good if users provide some feedback. 
Thanks for your thoughts.

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Grzegorz Kossakowski
http://reflectingonthevicissitudes.wordpress.com/

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