Whoa... I didn't say that either... as I think the book "should" be written.
It starts with a table of contents (or really, a feasibility study)... if it's determined that the end user can gain value from such a book (and content layout) and there is some type of market/demand for it... it should be on the shelf. As a point of interest, other SOA domain books such as "ActiveMQ in Action" and "Camel in Action" are being released. "CXF in Action" and "ServiceMix in Action" would compliment the series. In regards to monetary return, if you bought the best computer on the market to write the book (not that you'd need it)... you would probably make less money through royalties on the book than the cost of the computer. That is, you'd be in the red. So, if noone is interested in basically writing the book for free... they should not even consider it. Again though, I would buy it and informally review it prior to release. -- Robert On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:18:10 -0700, Ron Grimes <[email protected]> wrote: > Or, if you are a cheap s.o.b., like me, you just go to the publishers > site where they always have the source code from the book's examples, > and you can download them for free. That's all I really want anyway. I > don't want to read 500 pages. Give me a few examples and I'm ready to > go. If I want the architectural view, I can usually get that online. > > I agree with Robert. I have no idea why anyone would invest the time > to write these books. By the time you're done, several releases or > maybe a new version, have come out. Takes at least a year to write > one, and then it has maybe a two year life span before it's obsolete. > > Ron Grimes > > > -----Original Message----- > From: robert [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 8:51 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: CXF in Action > > No, I do not want to write the book, I am several years behind the > curve with CXF. > > As such, I have no business even being a co-author or even a formal > reviewer. But I would be an informal reviewer without receiving any > credit. > > There is no doubt in my mind that this book should exist, for many > reasons. > > Yes, there is very little (I stress little) money in writing books, and > it requires a great deal of time. The benefit goes to the consumers of > the book, not to the authors outside of knowing that they are bringing > extended value to the CXF community and the CXF product. > > If someone manages the project and the chapters are broken up between > three or four people, you could get the book through first writes in a > handful of months, not years. > > I'm just trying to be helpful here with the suggestion of "CXF in > Action". > > If anyone moves forward with this, I'll be active as an informal > reviewing in the MEAP program. > > -- Robert > > > On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 10:19:59 -0500, Glen Mazza <[email protected]> > wrote: >> There are already two or three books available with Apache CXF, >> several more if you consider the broader category of JAX-WS / SOAP or >> REST web services. >> >> Perhaps a book is less indicated for CXF compared to other projects >> because it implements specifications that are already defined >> elsewhere and implemented on multiple projects as well. Also, there >> are multiple blogs on web services and we have pretty good online >> documentation, at least compared to other projects that do have such >> books. >> >> While Robert, being an author of multiple books himself, may be >> itching himself to write another book--go to town, I say!--ultimately >> I have to take issue with his premise that we "should" write a book. >> Most books are notorious money-losers, the time put in vs. money >> derived from it in general is very poor. People write books because >> they see it as a mountain they want to climb, an additional >> accomplishment they wish to have under their belt, something that gets >> them to avoid doing household chores from their spouse--not for the >> negative financial benefits that such books normally engender. Absent >> any desire to climb that mountain, it's best not to bother. You can >> instead take a bunch of money out of your savings account and burn it, >> as such an action would provide the same financial effect of writing a >> book while taking far less time. >> >> Glen >> >> >> On 12/13/2010 09:35 AM, Craig Tataryn wrote: >>> I would suggest an eBook only CXF In Action book as the amount of trees it >>> would take to properly cover CXF might increase CO2 levels drastically at a >>> global level :) >>> >>> An authoritative reference manual would be great, I doubt though that any >>> of the CXF committers could find the time to put the necessary energy and >>> time into one, writing books is all consume from what I've heard. >>> >>> Craig. >>> >>> On 2010-12-13, at 8:25 AM, robert wrote: >>> >>>> Here is what is currently being done with "ActiveMQ in Action"... >>>> http://www.manning.com/snyder/. >>>> >>>> I think the same (MEAP effort) could be down for a "CXF in Action". >>>> >>>> -- Robert >>>> >>>> On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:46:41 -0300, Juan Pablo Pizarro >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Me too! >>>>> >>>>> 2010/12/13 Yiannis Mavroukakis<[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> Definitely. I'd buy. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12 December 2010 03:28, robert<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think you guys should write a "CXF in Action" book... any plans for >>>>>>> it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Robert >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>
