Am Mittwoch, den 28.09.2005, 16:00 +0200 schrieb Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany: > Hi Marc,
Good evening Frank, > > You're right, creating database applications is not for the ordinary > > user, it wasn't before and still isn't after MSA appeared. Microsoft > > tries to compensate this issue by throwing in masses of "wizards" and > > samples to lower the barrier. This is worth a thought! > > Yes. In fact I remember creating my first listbox ever showing values of another table and storing their foreign keys was set up from looking at the film database example of SO(5.2), not by reading the docs. ;) > > I think base should do better in general, take the best of *all* worlds > > not only one, please. Copying only the look and feel of MSA leads to > > making the same mistakes. > > > > In my opinion a database app should be easy to use and understand, > > however this goal is reached. Running after Microsoft is a race that > > never can be won. > > I have to see Base in the broader context of OOo here. Personally (and > really: *personally*!) I am no big fan of this "Copy MS" paradigm, but > the decision about the overall orientation of a concrete OOo version is > not made by me for Base only, but by others for OOo as a whole. (No, I > don't really want to start a discussion here about who decides this, and > the role some companies do or don't play here.) No offence intended, don't read me saying "anything from Microsoft is bad". It was only my head coming up on your statement about "internally" discussing the future of base: <from your second last mail to this thread> > For quite a while now, the OOo team (the Sun part of it, honestly) is > discussing what we (!) think should be the goals for post-2.0, and I > constantly argue that we should make Base a platform for application > development, exactly for the "applications" targeted at the groups of > 3 to 9 users you're mentioning. </from your second last mail to this thread> This was my starting point for putting some light on other facets of the db app creating universe. Do you have any measure on what users are trying to do with base? Maybe some grouping in simple users, database app developers and so on can clearify the needs to get the goals hit one by one ... > Still this doesn't mean that we "just copy", I also agree that combining > the best things from different worlds should be the way to go (and > sometimes we do), but given the limited resources and the main > priorities, this is not always easy. I'm pleased to read this. I've tried to get an old copy of Lotus Approach 97 from a magazine CD running but it doesn't work correctly, even on Win98 - I would have donated it otherwise. I was really impressed by it's simplicity and the ease of use. With a side view to the possibilities already in the API the way to something like it (thinking of independent modal forms) should not be too far. Hopefully my thoughts help in any way, Marc --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
